Lettering on Widebodies

[Dignity]

I get what your saying, but seriously in the bigger picture of things its not the end of the world. And no matter what paint job, NWA people are going to speak out against it anyways as the aircraft was the flagship of the NWA fleet... not so much for DAL.

Design is always highly subjective, some will like, some will not. I would rather money be used elsewhere then to spruce up a old tired and inefficient aircraft that will most likely meet the boneyard in a few years anyway.

Dapoes, I "like" the livery...it looks "nice" on most of the planes, it looks "ok" on the 744 but the name needs to be enlarged, because of the size of that particular aircraft with the logo on the tail not in scale with the font applied forward...its a simple modification that a lot of people are noticing.. will they do anything about it... regarding a subtle enhancement? they should (especially until all the 744 have that awkward placed name in the not most flattering position on the aircraft)... if not... oh well!(its not the end of the world).

I like the design, as it has reminiscent qualities of the past, basic same colors and regarding a more traditional widget, I very much like the style of the font used particularly than the previous, and the clean modern feel and dramatic tail.(I think the blue could have been a tad darker shade though...) I love the uniforms, inflight service amenities, product, facilities and importantly most of the people I have met! I still think the name on the 744 is in the wrong position though..

I dont necessarily feel applying the current brand on a 744 is sprucing it up rather than simply having a common theme? does it not makes sense for all the planes to at least match the corporate identity?

Lets not think of it as "sprucing" it up rather than! working together as a team, being a team player! (with the same paint colors) applied to all the planes!

 

[dapoes]

Dapoes, I "like" the livery...it looks "nice" on most of the planes, it looks "ok" on the 744 but the name needs to be enlarged, because of the size of that particular aircraft with the logo on the tail not in scale with the font applied forward...its a simple modification that a lot of people are noticing.. will they do anything about it... regarding a subtle enhancement? they should (especially until all the 744 have that awkward placed name in the not most flattering position on the aircraft)... if not... oh well!(its not the end of the world).

I like the design, as it has reminiscent qualities of the past, basic same colors and regarding a more traditional widget, I very much like the style of the font used particular than the previous, and the clean modern feel and dramatic tail.(I think the blue could have been a tad darker shade though...) I love the uniforms,inflight service amenities, product, facilities and importantly most of the people I have met! I still think the name on the 744 is in the wrong position though..

I dont necessarily feel applying the current brand on a 744 is sprucing it up rather than simply having a common theme? does it not makes sense for all the planes to at least match the corporate identity?

Lets not think of it as "sprucing" it up rather than! working together as a team, being a team player! (with the same paint colors) applied to all the planes!

I still say in all things being considered, any extra expense should be applied elsewhere. Especially in face of economic uncertainty.

 

[Dignity]

I still say in all things being considered, any extra expense should be applied elsewhere. Especially in face of economic uncertainty.

they have only painted 1 and 4 total..

 

[DalMD88]

Sometimes the Emperor has no clothes.

You can expect your new in-laws to call him out often.

Fact: On top of a crappy livery, these planes will look real dingy, real fast. APU exhaust, glycol, etc. will all really show up fast. Hope DL has a lot more wash crews than NW does...

Painting the bottoms of the aircraft was a huge mistake just for this reason alone. Also when the originally changed the 60's widget scheme to the bare lower lobe the reason was weight saving. I know current paint technology is better, but it still has to be true.

One thing they finally got somewhat right was the engine cowls. I think they should all be dark color, but at least they are a solid color. No more mismatched stripes.

 

[2BlacknBlue]

Im constantly amazed at what people find to complain about. :blink:

With fuel hovering around the 40's, you will soon begin to hear "employee costs are our number one expense" again. They will again begin to dissect your check to "remain competitive among our competition" to pass a reduced rate ticket on to the customer. Once our pay checks have been tapped out, they will then pass any surcharges on to the customer via baggage fees, etc. Been there, done that.

When DL planned to buy back over a billion dollars of it's stock to prop up it's market value, the employees were very vocal in expressing their concern over this exchange. Did DL listen? No.

When DL revised the employee sick time using the certified and uncertified sick banks, the employees again voiced their concern with this action. The employees simply wanted management to enforce the standard operational procedures that were in place to deal with sick-outs and the "Lazy-Larrys". Did DL listen? Nada!

When DL was sketching together its version of Song, the employees AGAIN voiced their concern by stating the obvious: To save the pile of money for this new "airline within an airline" upstart, put the new IFE systems on the DL 757 and go head to head with Jet Blue. At the time we even had Delta Connection feeding the hub and spokes. Song failed miserably and you can now purchase their shirts in the nearest Goodwill store. Did DL listen? A resounding NO!

If they aren't listening, where's the "direct relationship"?

 

[dapoes]

When you come out in public wearing something unflattering or maybe you have something hanging out of your nose, aren't you glad that someone cares enough to tell you the truth?
That's not complaining. That's called being a good friend.

Its just your subjective opinion. And since when personal hygiene equates to fashion (design)?

 

[2BlacknBlue]

Its just your subjective opinion. And since when personal hygiene equates to fashion (design)?

Maybe this is subjective enough for you...

“A bankruptcy court is a court of equity and it has very broad powers to assist you in terminating contracts and restructuring your costs. You wouldn’t have been able to do it outside of a Chapter 11 restructuring,â€￾ Anderson said during an appearance on CNBC.


http://www.ajc.com/news/content/business/d...a_anderson.html

 

[dapoes]

Maybe this is subjective enough for you...

“A bankruptcy court is a court of equity and it has very broad powers to assist you in terminating contracts and restructuring your costs. You wouldn’t have been able to do it outside of a Chapter 11 restructuring,â€￾ Anderson said during an appearance on CNBC.


http://www.ajc.com/news/content/business/d...a_anderson.html

So what? Are now shifting topic from font sizes on a rusty bucket to a UAW/GM/BK related article that just shows how ineffective a CBA can be?

Your not going to get me to shed any tears for the UAW. They have a major hand in the American auto industry downfall with stupid ideas like a UAW golf course and UAW Job Bank

 

[2BlacknBlue]

So what? Are now shifting topic from font sizes on a rusty bucket to a UAW/GM/BK related article that just shows how ineffective a CBA can be?

Your not going to get me to shed any tears for the UAW. They have a major hand in the American auto industry downfall with stupid ideas like a UAW golf course and UAW Job Bank

To the contrary, this article shows the strength of a contract up to BK. Anderson stated, "Delta Air Lines CEO Richard Anderson said Friday he doesn’t know whether airlines’ experience with bankruptcy translates to automakers, but that Delta and merger partner Northwest Airlines could not have done their restructuring outside of Chapter 11 bankruptcy."

...and it is still amazing how even having gone thru the BK process alongside NW, that NW continues to enjoy better benefits than the non-union DL co-workers. Inclusive in the better benefits are medical insurance, oji, and sick time. Definitely worth the dues. I pay my car insurance hoping that I may never need it, but if I do, it's there...I have a contract on my mortgage, my car loan, and my cell phone. I would like to retain a contract on the job to pay for the my belongings that I have the contracts on!

Even the illustrious leaders of DL/NW stated that the combination of the two would result in the best of both companies. Put that DL "industry standard pay" and those GREAT NW bennies in a legally binding document!

Your not going to get me to shed any tears for the UAW. They have a major hand in the American auto industry downfall with stupid ideas like a UAW golf course and UAW Job Bank

Kinda like paying former DL CEO R. Allen half a million dollars per year in consulting fees in his big Buckhead office bought and paid for by DL? Or like having an entire DL marketing department but hiring Diamond H Recognition (MyDeltaRewards) or Buck Consultants (Wheels Up Campaign) to provide promotional ideas?

 

[dapoes]

To the contrary, this article shows the strength of a contract up to BK. Anderson stated, "Delta Air Lines CEO Richard Anderson said Friday he doesn’t know whether airlines’ experience with bankruptcy translates to automakers, but that Delta and merger partner Northwest Airlines could not have done their restructuring outside of Chapter 11 bankruptcy."

...and it is still amazing how even having gone thru the BK process alongside NW, that NW continues to enjoy better benefits than the non-union DL co-workers. Inclusive in the better benefits are medical insurance, oji, and sick time.

Really? Wow...is that why the pilots and other workgroups got a raise to DAL pay scale (contract permitting)? :blink:

Kinda like paying former DL CEO R. Allen half a million dollars per year in consulting fees in his big Buckhead office bought and paid for by DL? Or like having an entire DL marketing department but hiring Diamond H Recognition (MyDeltaRewards) or Buck Consultants (Wheels Up Campaign) to provide promotional ideas?

Nope not even close in comparison to the damage UAW has done upon the auto industry. We will see whats left after Bush sliced open that sow today and (union-hugger) Obama will soon gut whats left of the UAW pig.

 

[Dignity]

font sizes on a rusty bucket

😱 ooooh no you didnt!...(start talking about my rusted out ride I take back and forth to work cause I cant afford a new car on my paycut!)

how this thread has gone from a font size on an paint scheme to being a (how was that..?) a "union-hugger" is beyond me! :blink:

 

[dapoes]

😱 ooooh no you didnt!...(start talking about my rusted out ride I take back and forth to work cause I cant afford a new car on my paycut!)

how this thread has gone from a font size on an paint scheme to being a (how was that..?) a "union-hugger" is beyond me! :blink:

Teehee, you are funny!

 

[Dignity]

Teehee, you are funny!

ya..you too! 😛 .....next it will attempted to be insinuated there are wooden benches and ropes for seatbelts... chickens in the overhead..peanut shells scattered all over business..and a puppet show(put on by the crew)... for IFE...!!

 

[RobertD]

Kinda like paying former DL CEO R. Allen half a million dollars per year in consulting fees in his big Buckhead office bought and paid for by DL? Or like having an entire DL marketing department but hiring Diamond H Recognition (MyDeltaRewards) or Buck Consultants (Wheels Up Campaign) to provide promotional ideas?

Is it also like how Northwest "loaned" Andy Roberts to Habitat for Humanity yet NWA still pays his salary!?

 

[Dignity]

Is it also like how Northwest "loaned" Andy Roberts to Habitat for Humanity yet NWA still pays his salary!?

the only comment I will make is simply I hope that humanity and altruism was learned, appreciated and importantly...applied.

giving without the constant need of self-recognition, reward..or bonus, can be a gift in itself..

some people will never comprehend or fully understand what that is all about in their lifetime, and that is sadly tragic.