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Mark Foley. Cover up?

The new testament is not a recapitulation of the old testament.

Man clearly separated himself from God in the old writings of the old testament. God sought to destroy the world.

Jesus was sent by God to save mankind and reunite with God.

Big difference between God's actions and distance from man before Christ was crucified as revealed in the old testament.
I'll pray for ya.
This 700IAM has a rather "Cavalier" attitude , wouldn't you agree?
 
When Does The Kingdom Of God Begin?[/b]

...When the Kingdom of God is here (and this surely does not apply anywhere on earth now) "they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more" (Micah 4:3 KJV):
The Kingdom of God is going to be a long time coming, at this rate. 😉
 
The Kingdom of God is going to be a long time coming, at this rate. 😉
The Return Of Jesus Christ

For the past nearly 2,000 years, there has been an ongoing debate regarding the Return of Jesus Christ. Many believe that He will literally return, exactly as The Bible says that He will, perhaps even within the lifetime of those alive today. Others have come to their own opinion, apart from what the Scriptures plainly say, and believe that the Return of Christ will not be an actual physical event, but was meant symbolically somehow. And others have decided, for themselves, that the existence of the Christian church (or in reality, hundreds of conflicting churches calling themselves Christian) serves the same purpose.
What does the Bible actually say about it? What does Prophecy actually say about it? What did Jesus Christ Himself actually say about it?


The Mount of Olives / The Mount of Olivet

Jesus Christ Is Going To Actually Return

"So when they had come together, they asked Him, "Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?" He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or seasons which The Father has fixed by His own authority. But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be My witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria and to the end of the earth."

And when He had said this, as they were looking on, He was lifted up, and a cloud took Him out of their sight. And while they were gazing into heaven as He went, behold, two men stood by them in white robes, and said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, Who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw Him go into heaven." Then they returned to Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is near Jerusalem." (Acts 1:6-12 RSV)

"Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken then will appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory; and He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other" (Matthew 24:29-31 RSV)

"Then The Lord will go forth and fight against those nations as when He fights on a day of battle. On that day His feet shall stand on The Mount Of Olives which lies before Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives shall be split in two from east to west by a very wide valley; so that one half of the Mount shall withdraw northward, and the other half southward. And the valley of my mountains shall be stopped up, for the valley of the mountains shall touch the side of it; and you shall flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then The Lord your God will come, and all the holy ones with Him." (Zechariah 14:3-5)

"For The Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the archangel's call, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first; then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet The Lord in the air." (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 RSV)

"And The Lord will become king over all the earth; on that day The Lord will be one and His Name one." (Zechariah 14:9 RSV)

"It shall come to pass in the latter days that the mountain of the house of The Lord shall be established as the highest of the mountains, and shall be raised up above the hills; and peoples shall flow to it, and many nations shall come, and say: "Come, let us go up to the mountain of The Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; that He may teach us His ways and we may walk in His paths." For out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of The Lord from Jerusalem. He shall judge between many peoples, and shall decide for strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more; but they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree, and none shall make them afraid; for the mouth of The Lord of hosts has spoken." (Micah 4:1-4 RSV)

"And he said to me, "These words are trustworthy and true. And The Lord, the God of the spirits of the Prophets, has sent His angel to show His servants what must soon take place. And behold, I am coming soon." Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy of this book." (Revelation 22:6-7 RSV)
 
When Does The Kingdom Of God Begin?[/b]

Hey 700, does your "Kingdom of God" look anything like this?

http://www.amazon.com/Handmaids-Tale-A-Novel/dp/038549081X

The Handmaid's Tale
From Library Journal:
... In the Republic of Gilead, formerly the United States, far-right Schlafly/Falwell-type ideals have been carried to extremes in the mono-theocratic government. The resulting dystopian society is a nightmare: women are strictly controlled (owned), unable to have jobs or money and assigned to various classes: the chaste, childless Wives; the housekeeping Marthas; and the reproductive Handmaids, who turn their offspring over to the "morally fit" Wives. The tale is told by Offred (read: "of Fred"), a Handmaid who recalls the past and tells how the chilling society came to be. This powerful, memorable novel is highly recommended...
 
Hey 700, does your "Kingdom of God" look anything like this?

http://www.amazon.com/Handmaids-Tale-A-Novel/dp/038549081X

The Handmaid's Tale
From Library Journal:
... In the Republic of Gilead, formerly the United States, far-right Schlafly/Falwell-type ideals have been carried to extremes in the mono-theocratic government. The resulting dystopian society is a nightmare: women are strictly controlled (owned), unable to have jobs or money and assigned to various classes: the chaste, childless Wives; the housekeeping Marthas; and the reproductive Handmaids, who turn their offspring over to the "morally fit" Wives. The tale is told by Offred (read: "of Fred"), a Handmaid who recalls the past and tells how the chilling society came to be. This powerful, memorable novel is highly recommended...


The Ninth Commandment

"You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor." (Exodus 20:16 RSV)

Satan's Language - Lies


The first recorded lie, from the inventor and spirit of liars:
"And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden; but God said, 'You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.'" But the serpent said to the woman, "You will not die." (Genesis 3:2-4 RSV)

God's Way is Life and Truth; Satan's way is death and lies:

"Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear My word. You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. But, because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me." (John 8:43-45 RSV)

"the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the Gospel of the glory of Christ, Who is the likeness of God." (2 Corinthians 4:4 RSV)

God's Language - The Truth


Always speaking the truth brings freedom, peace of mind and eternal life:
"Sanctify them in the truth; Thy Word is truth." (John 17:17 RSV)

"Put off your old nature which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your minds, and put on the new nature, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness. Therefore, putting away falsehood, let every one speak the truth with his neighbor, for we are members one of another." (Ephesians 4:22-25 RSV)

"We have renounced disgraceful, underhanded ways; we refuse to practice cunning or to tamper with God's Word, but by the open statement of the truth we would commend ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God." (2 Corinthians 4:2 RSV)

"Therefore take the whole Armor Of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having girded your loins with Truth" (Ephesians 6:13-14 RSV)

Truth or Consequences

There will be no liars in the Kingdom of God:
"But you yourselves wrong and defraud, and that even your own brethren. Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor sexual perverts, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God." (1 Corinthians 6:8-10 RSV)

"Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense, to repay every one for what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end." Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and that they may enter the city by the gates. Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and fornicators and murderers and idolaters, and every one who loves and practices falsehood." (Revelation 22:12-15 RSV)

"Liar, Liar, Pants On Fire..."

There is nothing in this world worth lying about. The old mocking children's rhyme, "Liar, liar, pants on fire..." is not entirely inappropriate, considering what is surely coming:
"the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up. Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of persons ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness, waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be kindled and dissolved, and the elements will melt with fire! But according to His promise we wait for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells. Therefore, beloved, since you wait for these, be zealous to be found by Him without spot or blemish, and at peace." (2 Peter 3:10-14 RSV)
 
Geez 700IAM....do you think that the more you cut and paste the more people are going to get your point. If you can't get your point across in a few sentences then a deluge of bible verses won't help. I believe your lengthy posts just strengthen people's resolve to disagree with you. It's a shame but I believe your approach is a little too heavy-handed.
 
Geez 700IAM....do you think that the more you cut and paste the more people are going to get your point. If you can't get your point across in a few sentences then a deluge of bible verses won't help. I believe your lengthy post just strengthens people's resolve to disagree with you. It's a shame but I believe your approach is a little too heavy-handed.
What you and others fail to grasp is I just don't care what you think or anyone thinks who hold onto the very things that fly in the face of God's Holy word.

If you think I am heavy handed than the Lord must really be out of line, in your mind.

If the Living Word of God bothers you so much, go on your merry way, eat drink and be merry until the day you face him, (and you will) at that point take your grievances up with him, maybe he will cut you some slack, but I wouldn’t bet my soul on it. Not preaching hell fire doesn’t make it disappear, closing your eyes so you can’t see something doesn’t make it go away, and neither does the Living Word of God go away because you and others think it an allegory or fantasy.

How big a gambler are you? Enough to bet your eternal soul that I am crazy for believing the Living Word of God? Right wing freak with mental problems, is that what I am? I’ll take my chances that eternality and God are for real and that going my merry way is the wrong destructive path.


Prudence means practical common sense, taking the trouble to think out what you are doing and what is likely to come of it. Nowadays most people hardly think of Prudence as one of the “virtuesâ€. In fact, because Christ said we could only get into His world by being like children, many Christians have the idea that, provided you are “good†it does not matter being a fool. Are you a fool or as wise as serpents?
 
What you and others fail to grasp is I just don't care what you think or anyone thinks who hold onto the very things that fly in the face of God's Holy word.

If you think I am heavy handed than the Lord must really be out of line, in your mind.

Well you should care. Don't you ever think it is possible that your approach to spreading God's word may be driving more people away than bringing them in. The Lord is never out of line but it is possible that as humans we can be.
 
Fanaticism, Extremism, Nutyism;

What do these ‘isms’ have in common?

B) UT
 
Well you should care. Don't you ever think it is possible that your approach to spreading God's word may be driving more people away than bringing them in. The Lord is never out of line but it is possible that as humans we can be.


Thanks for the laugh :lol:


The Holy Spirit does his work and my actions will not throw a money wrench into what will be.

Here is a small example: We have elections coming up and to listen to some politicians you would think that if they are not reelected that the world will go to hell faster than it already is. Like Rick Santorum wants voters to believe. He had his 16 years service and wants to retire as a politician in his old age. He will not get my vote. Even if the devil himself replaces him, God will see to it what kind or how much damage he can accomplish. God’s still in control even though Satan hangs out on the street corners tempting everyone who passes by.
 
I heard Hassert on TV today. He said if he was told it was among numerous other topics and he just does not remember.

Strikes me as a bit odd. I would think that if I were talking with someone about various issues and someone mentions that ‘oh by the way, Mark Foley is sending inappropriate emails to minorsâ€￾ it would get my attention. Hassert is covering his ass and he is going to pay. At least that is my guess (and hope).
 
I heard Hassert on TV today. He said if he was told it was among numerous other topics and he just does not remember.

Strikes me as a bit odd. I would think that if I were talking with someone about various issues and someone mentions that ‘oh by the way, Mark Foley is sending inappropriate emails to minorsâ€￾ it would get my attention. Hassert is covering his ass and he is going to pay. At least that is my guess (and hope).
The Dems and Reps are all just flawed humans with he Rep being held even more accountable, to God, for touting moral issues when they are no better.
 
I heard Hassert on TV today. He said if he was told it was among numerous other topics and he just does not remember.

Strikes me as a bit odd. I would think that if I were talking with someone about various issues and someone mentions that ‘oh by the way, Mark Foley is sending inappropriate emails to minorsâ€￾ it would get my attention. Hassert is covering his ass and he is going to pay. At least that is my guess (and hope).

I would tell you if I knew but I didn’t know what I should say. Not that I didn’t know what I knew but I really didn’t know what I should have known. If I knew what I known, then I would have reacted differently given the facts that I had the knowledge but didn’t know.

UT
 

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