Mda Duped By Mgt Cronie

[GUARANTEED]

It looks like MDA will not be picketing on their own after all. This is no surprise as their new "leader" is a management cronie from ALG...good friends with MS. Sadly, most don't know the players and were trusting in them to do the right thing. I think they are starting to realize the whole thing was a fraud, as to date, their "leaders" have not done anything to save their jobs. They have strung them along, down the path to unemployment, always with promises of stopping the company in it's tracks. The only problem is all of these promises have been lies...nothing ever happens....propaganda put out to keep them quiet. I think the new "leader" has also been installed to try to stir up hate against PDT to cut off their flow to ML

 

[pitguy74]

MTG Cronie?

 

[BlackOps]

It looks like MDA will not be picketing on their own after all. This is no surprise as their new "leader" is a management cronie from ALG...good friends with MS. Sadly, most don't know the players and were trusting in them to do the right thing. I think they are starting to realize the whole thing was a fraud, as to date, their "leaders" have not done anything to save their jobs. They have strung them along, down the path to unemployment, always with promises of stopping the company in it's tracks. The only problem is all of these promises have been lies...nothing ever happens....propaganda put out to keep them quiet. I think the new "leader" has also been installed to try to stir up hate against PDT to cut off their flow to ML

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Well put GUARANTEED!

You hit all the points one for one.

 

[USA320Pilot]

It is my understanding ALPA MEC chairman Bill Pollock has called for a meeting of all interested MDA pilots to meet and discuss the issues that are of greatest concern to the MDA pilots. The meeting is scheduled to be held Thursday, June 22, at 3:00 PM at the Crowne Plaza hotel in Coraopolis, PA, across from the MEC office.

More information will be made available on the ALPA code-a-phone shortly.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[fatburger]

Wow.............i hope there is security in place. That one will get heated.

-fatburger-

 

[OTSmyth]

It is my understanding ALPA MEC chairman Bill Pollock has called for a meeting.... The meeting is scheduled to be held Thursday, June 22, at 3:00 PM at the Crowne Plaza hotel in Coraopolis, PA, across from the MEC office.



June 22?

 

[GroundedBoricua]

It is my understanding ALPA MEC chairman Bill Pollock has called for a meeting of all interested MDA pilots to meet and discuss the issues that are of greatest concern to the MDA pilots. The meeting is scheduled to be held Thursday, June 22, at 3:00 PM at the Crowne Plaza hotel in Coraopolis, PA, across from the MEC office.

More information will be made available on the ALPA code-a-phone shortly.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

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:huh: :huh: JUNE 22??? :unsure: :unsure:

Drop the pipe man. You inhailed too much :wacko: :wacko:

 

[BoeingBoy]

It looks like MDA will not be picketing on their own after all.

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Rumor has it the decision not to picket resulted from this resolution

WHEREAS on July 15, 2005, the MEC directed the MEC Chairman to use whatever lawful resources that are necessary to compel US Airways management to honor all the provisions of our contract, including resolving the MDA transaction dispute in an expeditious manner, and

WHEREAS Republic is now flying 3 EMB-170 aircraft in US Airways colors in violation of the CBA and LOA 91, and

WHEREAS US Airways management has announced the imminent furlough of our pilots,

WHEREAS the Investment Agreement among Wexford Capital LLC, Republic Airways Holding Inc., US Airways Group, Inc., and US Airways, Inc., dated as of March 15, 2005, at Exhibit B (Republic Aircraft Transaction), paragraph 2(h) (preferential Hiring), states as follows: “Republic will comply with the terms of Letter of Agreement #91 to the US Airways ALPA Collective Bargaining Agreement with respect to the flight crews currently employed by US Airways’ EMB-170 Division (“MidAtlanticâ€￾)…Further more, Republic will comply with such Letter of Agreement #91 associated with any additional aircraft,â€￾ and

WHEREAS Republic Airways is operating these US Airways aircraft in violation of the above mentioned investment agreement, and

WHEREAS the AAA MEC has passed resolution MEC AI 05-80 on July 15, 2005 directing the utilization of informational picketing if deemed necessary,

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the AAA MEC supports only authorized informational picketing as directed by the MEC at sites of the MEC’s choosing, and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the US Airways MEC activates the MEC Communications/Strike Preparedness Committee structure in preparation for informational picketing at a time and place to be determined, and

BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED that the message, plan, and organization of this operation be briefed to the MEC not later than Oct. 1, 2005.

Jim

 

[fr8tmastr]

Mission accomplished. the plan was to delay as much as possible, and not cause any contraversy with the company over the 170 division. The only reason they even passed a resolution or two is the tremendous pressure applied by the 170 pilots and a handful of honorable MEC members. But in the end they managed to do nothing at all, giving management and BB plenty of time to finish up the deal. The deal wont be delayed forever. This also plays into the MEC leaderships plan to rid themselves of the 170 pilots so as not to cause any diluting of the pilot pool for the 190's. the 170/190 is the same AC type, and if the 170's were still here, they would have a really hard time trying to convince anyone how its seperate. Heck they are still trying to convince people that the US Airways pilots flying the 170 under the US Airways operating certificate, and are paying AAA dues, and even hold elected office are in fact not active pilots.

Its long overdue, this MEC leadership needs to go. If they ever knew it, they have long forgotton. A union is about the whole, not certain select groups!

 

[BlackOps]

ALPA is all about delay!They have elevated the tactic to an art form.

Sadly for the MDA pilots, their alleged picket coordinator SN (who was hand picked for the chief pilot's job at ALG, by Ebola (MS) himself.) is singing a different tune. Surprise, surprise, he slept with management and now he thinks the picketing should be called off.

He carried management's water at ALG, why not continue at MDA?

 

[Rico]

Dudes, whoever you are, give it a rest....

1. First off, it is our informational picketing, and WE called it off (just for now). If our goals are being met by doing so then that is our business.

2. What's up with your beef with this one individual. Hate to break it to you, but he was only setting the informational picketing up because he had experince doing so from back in the day when he was a UNION officer. We had him do it because wanted to help, and he knew the proper procedures to follow. Short of his creating some evil plan to have us picket in the middle of a freeway, I fail to see how his involvment is some kind of threat to our well being. End of story.

3. About this supposed rift between those of us at mainline fying the E-170, and the representitives of the two Wholly Owned airlines. We do not have a problem with the MEC members of PDT, It is just a select few troublemakers that most of us distrust.

Put it plain and simple. Our only expectation IS that whatever flow thru program that gets created is fair and equtable to pilots both going up or going down. IMO if you have to return to your former employer, it should be no different than if you had remained. I would assume that any level headed individual still at PDT/PSA would want that if they too someday must flow down.

If you need a good example of what we dislike about what has been proposed so far... It seems just wrong that a "returnee" (who served years at that company) would be furloughed first rather than a recent newhire (because they are "protected") if a downturn occurs. I do not endorse displacements from positions either upwards or downwards, but if PDT parks some planes it seems unfair for a 10 year veteran to get the boot rather than a 10 month pilot... Dont'cha think...?

Things like this lead many of the E-170 pilots to demand both a better effort from our own representitives to protect our interests and a hope that no one involved with the wholly owned MEC's push for a deal that is great for themselves, but bad for their former co-workers...

We are not looking for anything other than what we were lead to believe was the case if we went up to mainline. Yeah, it was news to me that a flow did not really exist (after having flowed up), but I am more concerned about what should be done now, not what could have been accomplished in the past. Nuff said.

 

[algflyr]

Black ops you are completley mis-informed. Your hate for SN is apparent, and believe me, I know his feelings for you are mutual. Anyway, the picketing was not called off, it was only delayed by 10 days. You know nothing about this or any of the reasons for the postponement. Once again, you have let hatred and emotion cloud good judgement and decided a personal attack would feel better eventhough that rarely solves any problems...

 

[WSurf]

Has anything been discussed about a MDA people (former ALG/PDT) going back to PDT? I have heard from management that there is no way they are coming back with there old positions.
Was there really a flow up to begin with? I thought a flowup was to increase pay and QOL, from what I heard MDA FO's weren't making that much more then PDT FO's when you factor in pay credit per month. When my number was called I stayed away from that place.... I really felt that wasn't a step up at all!!!! People left for various reason, 1. They just hated working for PDT. 2. They needed to get there 1000hrs of Jet time to move on. 3. They wanted to get that fuzzy feeling of being more closer related to a mainline pilot then a regional puddle jumper. 4. This would have been to make more money, but I don't think any WO guys upgraded. This job would have been like jumping over to another regional just to fly an RJ. Is that really a flow up? Going to mainline would have been!! But MDA?????
I am a PDT pilot, and I do have some friends over there that took that chance on MDA. If MDA people were to come back, hmmm... fine with me (I'd probably be downgraded) however NO CURRENT PDT PILOT SHOULD BE FURLOUGHED... If slots become open, then fill them with MDA guys. If you flow back, atleast you have health, travel bennies while searching for other jobs. And if you do come back to PDT, most of you would really have to check your attitudes in at the door!!
When you speak of years of service... Rico, if you were a WO pilot with 10 years of experience, then why would you be slinging a gear for a 2 year furloughed mainline guy at MDA.. and why would you get furloughed first from MDA... Seems you are more valuable and had more years of service. I don't think that years of service thing washes both ways..

Anyway good luck.. Maybe it will all work out for all of us!!!

 

[algflyr]

I agree that if MDA pilots flow back into PDT, that should not cause any furloughs. We should only be able to come onto the property as positions open. The main beef we have with this new document is that it tries to say that if PDT furloughs sometime in the future, those that flowed back go first. That is not right. Those were our positions before we took the chance with MDA. We will not bump coming back in, but once we are back, we take our relative position we had. Any furloughs start at the bottom. That's the way it is here. I was in one of the first classes at MDA and many senior pilots came here after me. Guess what, they are senior to me here and I will be furloughed before them even though I have close to a year more time at MDA. That's the way it works. If the new flow document wishes to change the flow-up to work that way, OK. Anyone currently at MDA that flows back, has the first right to re-flow back up when that occurs. And if at MDA or mainline, senior people that flow up will be furloughed based an their time at mainline, not based on seniority order. It's got to be consistent...