MEL elimination

[Jeff B]

There are a lot of things you don't comprehend groundcontrol.
You would be suspecting wrong in this case Thirdseat. Why do you guys have such a hard time with the facts? When the Original Scabs were running the show we blew by every bar the AMFA Boys had set. There was simply no comparison. You watch, as the AMFA Boys regain power of the maintenance again, you will see the MEL and AOS numbers increase. It is the nature of union shops. How about some of you AA guys posting your MEL and AOS count.

PTO, you are indeed a fool. I have been reading your rantings on this board for some time now, and have grown weary of the misinformation you post. I am a 16 year former employee of NWA, so I should know.

Historically the MEL count at NWA was about 150 a day. I believe that was with quite a few more aircraft than when you were there. The numbers were reduced to almost 0 on a daily basis by the fine people working RON’s. On the rare occasion the count got above 200 the FAA was all over us.

My suggestion to you is to shut up, leave this board and find a spot where you can trade hotel tips with the other gypsies.

 

[Don Smith]

I worked in DTW for the last two years before the strike and I never heard of this "strategy" to backlog the rotables, I assume to the vendors? I can personally tell you that the zone 5 crew was NOT involved in anything like this. We changed the same number of tires as usual and repaired anything that we could get the parts for...its all about fixing airplanes. But the fact remains that parts were being "stored" until after the strike. The MEL count was artificially inflated because of that action...not the fault of the mechanics. I appreciate your telling me about the pallets of parts, it confirms what I had heard from another source.

.... One of the Amfa members who crossed told me that part of AMFA's stragedy was to attempt to backlog so many parts that they would not be available when the MEL's dropped dead, thereby throwing a wrench into Andy's plan. While I cant verify this, it does seem like a good way to slow the process down. Had it succeeded, we would not have been able to get the MEL count down as low as we did. (For what its worth, I recall one of the strikers laughingly tell us "good luck getting parts". He may have been trying to be helpful, or he may just have known more than he was letting on. Who knows.....?)

 

[tech2101]

QUOTE(CSAR GYRENE @ Nov 16 2006, 01:17 PM) *

"When I arrived I was assigned to recieving Inspection in MSP." 🙄 :blink:

That just about says it all.

A scab who is an incidental expert. Enjoy your little place in hell scab.

 

[Necrophilias]

B)-->QUOTE(Jeff B @ Nov 16 2006, 05:14 PM) [post="430491"][/post]

PTO, you are indeed a fool. I have been reading your rantings on this board for some time now, and have grown weary of the misinformation you post. I am a 16 year former employee of NWA, so I should know.

Historically the MEL count at NWA was about 150 a day. I believe that was with quite a few more aircraft than when you were there. The numbers were reduced to almost 0 on a daily basis by the fine people working RON’s. On the rare occasion the count got above 200 the FAA was all over us.

My suggestion to you is to shut up, leave this board and find a spot where you can trade hotel tips with the other gypsies.
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PTO has posted some very suspect information from time to time. I can't really say that I know airline maintainence operations but I doubt that PTO does either. 🙂

On average the PTO contributions posted here are about as exciting as Bucharest on a Monday Night.

More thought provoking are the possibilities of what NW might or might not become from this day foward. Does the word "merger" sound familiar to you airline vets? Given the state of NW would a merger even function in a post merger enviroment?

BTW, I like my proposal for resolving MEL issues. This really isn't confusing or complex. This is only a matter of making the airline more functional.

N.

 

[Jeff B]

Sometime ago while writing a thesis for scholastic honors I was required to address issues to be resolved within a corporate structure. Research and discussions lead me to believe that often a road once traveled could be the answer to current problems. Here are my thoughts as to how SCABAIRWAYS could contend with a high MEL count.

Issue: A high MEL count at a troubled airline.

Solution: Recall 800-900 skilled aircraft mechanics to reslove the MEL count. When the MEL count is down the recalled mechanics would have active seniority rights and could displace those who were hired in recent years. The troubled airline would once again have skilled mechanics and at a lower rate of pay. This isn't to state that the airline would resume the proper number of mechanics but a higher skill level would again be realized.

Will a troubled airline have the common sense to take such action? We'll see!

N.

Sound theory, unfortunately the HUGE ego’s at this and other corporations are busily showing us our place in society. I personally wouldn’t want to take on the responsibility for signing off these aircraft. One can make what NWA pays in other industries.

 

[jenny@nw]

On average the PTO contributions posted here are about as exciting as Bucharest on a Monday Night.

More like just as exciting as finally taking a crapper after being constipated....and it just gets flushed away and who cares after that.



On average I think I had 3 a flight when I was lead.

I like this guy: "Hey, does that jumpseat really need to be fixed?"
Me:
I'm sure they can't be blocking those seats forever..... :unsure:

For all I know they probably duct taped it. Or used masking tape. One flight somebody used scotch tape to tape electical wire in place. What kind of superior scab training are we going through?

 

[big jimmy]

There are a lot of things you don't comprehend groundcontrol.
You would be suspecting wrong in this case Thirdseat. Why do you guys have such a hard time with the facts? When the Original Scabs were running the show we blew by every bar the AMFA Boys had set. There was simply no comparison. You watch, as the AMFA Boys regain power of the maintenance again, you will see the MEL and AOS numbers increase. It is the nature of union shops. How about some of you AA guys posting your MEL and AOS count.

:blink: You know scab boy it is easier to keep your story straight if you tell the truth, that way you don't have to remember so many lies. Because you stated over the summer that if the AMFA scabs did not cross the line nwa would have been in big trouble. By the way there scab boy I talked to a nwa maint. manager about 2 months ago and he stated all is not going as planed. And mel count is way high for the amount of a/c they are flying.

 

[EricLv2Fish]

I read where NW got another 6 month extension in BK. They want the right to give back more leased aircraft. Do you suppose these leased a/c will be the highest MEL'd? Spend zero $$$ on buying parts, just give them back. Hopefully they can play this game until new aircraft come on line. Just my thoughts.

Aircraft returns are usually under a contract that requires the aircraft to be returned in it's original condition prior to the lease agreement.

 

[robbedagain]

sounds like scrappy air wont be able to return the broken planes until there fixed, well whatever their fix means

 

[jenny@nw]

sounds like scrappy air wont be able to return the broken planes until there fixed, well whatever their fix means

:mellow: pretty soon they're gonna use oatmeal paste from all the leftover quaker oats bars from first class.

 

[groundcontrol]

Aircraft returns are usually under a contract that requires the aircraft to be returned in it's original condition prior to the lease agreement.

Northwest play by the rules/lease agreement....I don't think so....they are in bk, there are no rules. I'm sure all agreements are null and void as far as they are concern.