Merit Increases Return To Mgmt & Admin Employees

[Headhunter]

Any thoughts on Dave Siegel's e-mail to Management Salary Plan (MSP) and Administrative employees that merit increases are returning effective April, in spite of the cost-cutting environment?

Dave cited the bigger, long-term cost of dealing with the record employee turnover in these positions.

 

[robbedagain]

why should we as employees have to give up more money to these crooks of ccy if all they're going to do is give themselves more payraises to destroy this wonderful airline.???????????????

 

[USFlyer]

I've been told turnover in CCY is out of control. You have to remember these folks are not all executive management, are not bound by seniority concerns and have plenty of other opportunties now that the economy is beginning to turn around. The cost of hiring an employee is typically about 40-50k ... if turnover is as high as I've been told, merit increases may actually SAVE money.

 

[crazyincanton]

Great. I guess their raises will be financed by my givebacks. Where can I sign up. This is just another example of a management who is completely out of touch. You do not ask for $1.5 billion more in concessions and then turn around and give other groups raises. Just another classic example of "let's get ours before it's gone."

crazyincanton

 

[A320 Driver]

This has got to be the stupidist thing I've ever heard. Giving out raises at a time like this. If they don't want the job, then we indeed need to move headquarters to a place where people can appreciate the work.

He does this and he generates enough NO votes to bury this place.

A320 Driver :angry:

 

[GeezLouis]

I don't have a problem with merit raises, if the managers actually earn them. U's problem is they have too much managment, many of them seriously inept!!! It has been that way in all levels of the company and every department as long as I can remember! It's beyond my comprehension why upper management doesn't see this! They could save millions by cutting the white collar fat!!!

 

[diogenes]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I can solve this problem!

Let's outsource the jobs in need of a 'merit' (HAH!) increase to the frontline troops that use those services, and redistribute the salaries to those troops.

For example:

Why pay rent, utilities and salaries for CLP (Central Load Planning)? Abolish CLP and make the stations responsible for weight and balance.

Say it can't be done? Until a few years ago, that is exactly how it was done.

Do away with regional directors. The managers can put their stats in the computer, and if there is a beef, they can answer directly to the veep.

Why have a call center to handle freight? HR's?Baggage? Until recently, all were station functions.

Everything is on the table, right?

 

[sentrido]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I can solve this problem!

Let's outsource the jobs in need of a 'merit' (HAH!) increase to the frontline troops that use those services, and redistribute the salaries to those troops.

For example:

Why pay rent, utilities and salaries for CLP (Central Load Planning)? Abolish CLP and make the stations responsible for weight and balance.

Say it can't be done? Until a few years ago, that is exactly how it was done.

Do away with regional directors. The managers can put their stats in the computer, and if there is a beef, they can answer directly to the veep.

Why have a call center to handle freight? HR's?Baggage? Until recently, all were station functions.

Everything is on the table, right?

Unfortunately, They wont even think of doing these types of things till they bleed every dollar possible from the unions.If they start to saving money by fixing operational inefficiencies, they wont have the doom and gloom card that its all labors fault to hold over the unions.

 

[PITbull]

I don't have a problem with merit raises, if the managers actually earn them. U's problem is they have too much managment, many of them seriously inept!!! It has been that way in all levels of the company and every department as long as I can remember! It's beyond my comprehension why upper management doesn't see this! They could save millions by cutting the white collar fat!!!

I don't agree with that thinking. If these are truly concessionary times, than all take cuts. Period. We all deserve a raise, not just managment, if you want to go there.

 

[PITbull]

Any thoughts on Dave Siegel's e-mail to Management Salary Plan (MSP) and Administrative employees that merit increases are returning effective April, in spite of the cost-cutting environment?

Dave cited the bigger, long-term cost of dealing with the record employee turnover in these positions.

Can you furnish that e-mail. I didn't see it.

 

[MarkMyWords]

I thought that all of the contracts had incrumental raises starting in 2004. It may only be a token 2%, but there are raises scheduled. Why shouldn't MSP, Non-contract and clerical employees also have the same provisions? So they get a token 2% raise today, by tomorrow it will be another 6% paycut.

 

[Tim Nelson]

IAM General Chairman Randy Canale said, " Our members have seen their once proud Airline run into the ground by a total inept level of management not seen since People's express.."

I am not at all surprised about this talk of big bonus' coming again for 'certain people' while others are asked to take food off their table. One word defines this...greed.

 

[cavalier]

Is this true? According to my foremen it certainly is.

The management ranks love it when the union employees face another cut, seems every time we do they get themselves bonuses and raises!

I also understand they already received their vacation back that they gave up at the beginning of the year.

If this is true and it probably is, what is this management team thinking, just how twisted is their logic?

 

[Tim Nelson]

I thought that all of the contracts had incrumental raises starting in 2004. It may only be a token 2%, but there are raises scheduled. Why shouldn't MSP, Non-contract and clerical employees also have the same provisions? So they get a token 2% raise today, by tomorrow it will be another 6% paycut.

That is not correct. Although the mechanics, utility, pilots, and other groups will receive 2% raises this year I believe, the fleet service workers decided to vote and approve a contract that did not incorporate raises until July 2005. I believe this is true, however, I have not seen or had access to a fleet service contract.

At any rate, my gut feeling is that the 2% all other groups will get while fleet service will be left out will be 'noted', should fleet service have to vote again.

 

[usfliboi]

First of all at this point this is all rumor folks. Instead of taking the bait why cant you wait. With that said if this is true, ( and id like to see the details) this is truly a mistake. Its doesnt look good nor does it breed trust and respect between management and its employees. I ll have to wait to hear Dave address this and foremost if its even true.