New Mexico orders US Airways to stop serving alcohol
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A tragic story.
Is that true that all other airlines in New Mexico have licenses to sell alcohol? If so, how would it come about that US would not have such a license? Lack of knowledge of New Mexico's laws?
It's fascinating that the state waited until such a terrible accident occured before enforcing the law.
Is that true that all other airlines in New Mexico have licenses to sell alcohol? If so, how would it come about that US would not have such a license? Lack of knowledge of New Mexico's laws?
It's fascinating that the state waited until such a terrible accident occured before enforcing the law.
From the article:
Authorities accused Redi-Mart of selling Papst beer before the crash although he was already drunk. Papst had arrived in Albuquerque on a 5:30 p.m. flight, and Santa Fe deputies found cans of beer at the crash site about 8 p.m.
So they found cans of beer at the scene and these idiots are still going after USAirways? Is this normal? Shouldn't they then go after the bar in PHX airport that he drank at as well, before the flight, for instance? I mean, how far back are they going? 🙄
Gots to luv America: Take absolutely no responsibility for your actions, just SUE!
Note to Tempe: Slash flights to ABQ in half tomorrow, and change the remaining ones to RJ's, if they aren't already.
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This is a perfect example of why some need to be cut off. I have heard MANY a flight attendant say that they will continue to serve as long as they are a "good drunk". Well a passenger travelling is doing just that travelling. You have no idea where they were or where they are headed. If you appear to be well over the limit you shouldn't be served. The airline should be at fault if he was THAT drunk and it was proven that he wasn't anywhere else between the airplane and the accident.
Now was the guys name Pabst or was he swilling the Pabst Blue Ribbbon... PBR... memories of high school
Oh, have to disagree. Obviously, we should not serve people that appear to be wasted. But when, exactly, do you take responsibility for your own actions, Travelpro? You make a conscious choice to get behind the wheel, and you kill someone, as an adult, in this country, and USAirways becomes responsible? Can't buy that one, sorry.
If this blaming of airlines, etc, becomes out of hand can you imagine the restrictions that could be put in place in restaurants/airplane cabins, etc? It's a headache I don't want to even imagine. Take responsibility for yourself. Period. 🙄
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Maybe America West has the liquor license.
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Aha! So, if that's the case, I would guess that no one in Tempe bothered to get one for US. I also wonder if this was something a merged flight certificate was supposed to cover.
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Cutting someone off on the airplane where alcohol is sold is just the same as a bartender cutting off a patron at a bar. A person being of sound mind and knowing when to quit is a little hard when your already drunk. As the sober one selling YOU should know when to shut someone down. Though the person drinking should be a responsible adult the server should not serve irresponsibly.
Why would that matter? No certificates have been merged as of yet, have they? In reality, HP serves ABQ, US (east) does not. I am sure it's not because Tempe didn't "bother" to get a license....
Right, and bartenders can be personally fined and convicted if a person goes out and kills someone because of the alcohol the bartender served. You are advocating these laws for FA's as well then, right ? Be careful what you are "advocating" here. Alcohol affects people differently, especially in an airplane environment. This would be a nightmare for FA's, forget the daMM airline! :blink: 😱
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Why would that matter? No certificates have been merged as of yet, have they? In reality, HP serves ABQ, US (east) does not. I am sure it's not because Tempe didn't "bother" to get a license....
Hmm...seems a bit strange. 🙄
Back to an earlier question: Is it true that all other airlines that serve New Mexico have licenses to serve alcohol? Any takers for that question?
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I have honestly seen passengers so drunk they can barely walk let alone pull their rollerboard up the aisle. I wouldn't want to know that "I" was responsible for serving him that much liquor. I'm not saying we need to do breathalizers before we serve each passenger but know good judgement in shutting someone down. I had a passenger in f/c so damn drunk he almost fell on my friend and I sitting on the jumpseat on his journey to the bathroom. Let's just say he wasn't pretty. This accident is horrible and if this man made other stops I don't see how we could be responsible.
Exactly. I do not see how we could be responsible either, especially with beer cans from the good ole "Redi- Mart" all over the accident scene. Unreal... 🙄
I would also like to add that the flying time from Phoenix to Albuquerque is usually around 45 to 50 minutes. With the flights almost always being at or near capacity, I just cannot see how this passenger was able to consume gross amounts of alcohol provided by the carrier on such a short segment.
With turbulence into ABQ a common occurence that requires clean up at the top of descent, we are hard pressed to complete a single beverage service and trash pickup on a full flight in such a short amount of time.
If this passenger was indeed served by us, and was traveling in coach, he MAYBE got one drink down because that was probably all we had time to serve him.
With turbulence into ABQ a common occurence that requires clean up at the top of descent, we are hard pressed to complete a single beverage service and trash pickup on a full flight in such a short amount of time.
If this passenger was indeed served by us, and was traveling in coach, he MAYBE got one drink down because that was probably all we had time to serve him.
