Northwest Begins Lease Rejections

[WorldTraveler]

NW filed as part of its 1st day motions to reject leases on aircraft. They included a list of excess, non operational aircraft that are generally parked in the desert and included DC-10s, 9s, and 742s. But it also includes 757-200s N522US, 525, 527, 528, and 529 and A320 N302US. Why are these aircraft 757s and 320s not flying? Has NW grounded some of these aircraft and were they mechanically sound when they left the fleet?

There is also a much larger list of operational aircraft that includes 3 744s, a number of DC10-30s, and more 752, 320s, 319s, and 146s(looks like almost the whole fleet of them). The petition on this group of aircraft is that the lease rates are too high and NW may or may not want those aircraft based on what lease rates can be negotitiated.


Any insight on the 75s and 320s in the first group?

NW's restructuring info is at www.nwa-restructuring.com

 

[robbedagain]

Does NWA still fly the DC-10s? if so which models? And in this restructering, will they eliminate the DC-9s?

 

[WorldTraveler]

Robbed,
NW does still have DC10s in its schedules. Problem is those airplanes are not the ones that can be rejected since they are owned outright (although I think they do serve as small amounts of collateral on some loans). NW can renegotiate lease rates on some of its newer aircraft but they cannot afford to remove alot of newer generation aircraft from service without increasing their fuel costs since the older owned aircraft are not fuel-efficient. NW's older fleet is the biggest reason why they are hard pressed to remain an independent carrier. During the bankruptcy process, NW employees will take disproportionately high pay cuts so NW can remain somewhat competitive w/ other carriers that operate more fuel-efficient aircraft. They can't eliminate the 10s and 9s since they compose a third of NW's capacity.

 

[robbedagain]

ok thanks for answering that. i wasnt sure what they could or not with the fleet. thanks again

 

[mga707]

Does NWA still fly the DC-10s? if so which models?

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22 DC-10-30s are in the fleet, although at least one is parked. All are secondhand, as NW got rid of their original DC-10-40s (P&W engines) a few years back.

 

[Kev3188]

If I'm not mistaken, approx. 6-8 of them are in MZJ.....

 

[WorldTraveler]

Kev and/or mga,
can you tell us why NW has grounded some 757-200s?

 

[Kev3188]

I'm not sure why exactly, but NW has had a handful 757's parked for quite some time...Maybe these were coming due for heavy checks, and thus were the "easiest" to park for capacity reductions? I believe a few had recently been brought back into service.

Also for some time there were 2 757's shown (inactive) in DEN with tail numbers that were completely out of sequence with our fleet. Not sure what the story on those was either.

 

[The End]

NW filed as part of its 1st day motions to reject leases on aircraft. They included a list of excess, non operational aircraft that are generally parked in the desert and included DC-10s, 9s, and 742s. But it also includes 757-200s N522US, 525, 527, 528, and 529 and A320 N302US. Why are these aircraft 757s and 320s not flying? Has NW grounded some of these aircraft and were they mechanically sound when they left the fleet?

There is also a much larger list of operational aircraft that includes 3 744s, a number of DC10-30s, and more 752, 320s, 319s, and 146s(looks like almost the whole fleet of them). The petition on this group of aircraft is that the lease rates are too high and NW may or may not want those aircraft based on what lease rates can be negotitiated.
Any insight on the 75s and 320s in the first group?

NW's restructuring info is at www.nwa-restructuring.com

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They are just using the play book written by Uair and UAL. First they will screw all the people that do business with them then they will come after the employee's. You guys will loose your pay, benefits, and your pensions. The same will go for DAL. Certainly AMR is just around the corner. BK court is just a tool used by corporate america to do their dirty work. Big business always wins and labor always looses. Its the new world order. Big business runs this country not the government. The End

 

[PlayTheOdds]

This is just a guess based on what little I have heard around the shop. Northwest is going to attempt to rebuild its fleet using nothing but Airbus.

 

[chasbatl]

This is just a guess based on what little I have heard around the shop. Northwest is going to attempt to rebuild its fleet using nothing but Airbus.

[post="302322"][/post]​

This is a fact i heard around the shop. (edited by moderator).

 

[PlayTheOdds]

Are you saying its not mere rumor but actual fact?

 

[chasbatl]

Are you saying its not mere rumor but actual fact?

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Truth hurts doesnt it

 

[PlayTheOdds]

Doesn't hurt me if that is what they want to do. I just happen to think that Airbus is an excellent aircraft. I'm glad to see a company is giving Boeing a run for its money. Boeing's head was about to explode now maybe a little competition will bring the swelling down. You guys better learn to accept that the United States is part of a global economy. You constantly complain about jobs going over seas. A news flash gentleman overseas isn’t that far away anymore it will soon be next-door.

 

[Emil.Howes]

Doesn't hurt me if that is what they want to do. I just happen to think that Airbus is an excellent aircraft. I'm glad to see a company is giving Boeing a run for its money. Boeing's head was about to explode now maybe a little competition will bring the swelling down. You guys better learn to accept that the United States is part of a global economy. You constantly complain about jobs going over seas. A news flash gentleman overseas isn’t that far away anymore it will soon be next-door.

[post="302360"][/post]​

LOL!!!


Be careful in your outing mweiss.........
-BigE