Not Enough Money ?

[700UW]

A $100 a week for the second time and a union not paying strike benefits, not having a real strike fund and setting up a paypal account begging for money pretty much sums up that AMFA was not prepared for a strike at NWA.

But hey don't let the facts get in your way.

 

[FA Mikey]

First of all AMFA got 10,000 members back in the mid 90's when it took over the representation of the NWA M&R group, almost ten years of paying dues.

They got UAL two years ago.

The IAM Strike Benefit is $100 a week, not a month.

Guess AA had the same problem otherwise why would APA, APFA and the TWU take concessions if AA had no problems making ends meet and paying their bill?

You can go to the DOL web page and view AMFA's LM2, for some reason it wont upload, they have to pay their leadership six figures so they cant have a strike fund.

[post="292341"][/post]​

Don't let facts or reality get in the way of your rants or posts. Well, Almost 10 years, that's like saying U almost pays its bills. Not almost, that is really not anything. Don't compare a new growing organization to one that has had the majority of people for years and did nothing but build a large strike fund that they limit to 100 dollars a week. YES, I SAY A WEEK, like in the last post. Care to reread it. Brilliant aren't you.

AA same problem, hmmmm don't think so. AA not had to file BK 2 times screwing vendors and employees alike. In fact we made a quarterly profit did U? I still have a pension do U?

I would love for you to post where it says "they have to pay their leadership six figures so they cant have a strike fund." It doesn't does it? You lied on that bit didn't you? Don't let reality and facts strain you too much.

 

[FA Mikey]

A $100 a week for the second time and a union not paying strike benefits, not having a real strike fund and setting up a paypal account begging for money pretty much sums up that AMFA was not prepared for a strike at NWA.

But hey don't let the facts get in your way.

[post="292344"][/post]​

AMFA is doing great, NWA is heading down a bad path with this. AMFA was well prepared.

Sorry you feel that the only important thing in a strike is a union paying 100 dollars a week. BTW 100 dollars a week is a JOKE forIAM with alll its millions to pay the working folks

I do have the facts.

You are the one who is lost on reality and true facts. I know your make it up as you go, is a style that works for you. It is just laughable.

 

[AMFAMAN]

A $100 a week for the second time and a union not paying strike benefits, not having a real strike fund and setting up a paypal account begging for money pretty much sums up that AMFA was not prepared for a strike at NWA.

But hey don't let the facts get in your way.

[post="292344"][/post]​

The twu(AFL-CIO) has been on the property at AA for over 60 years and has no strike fund.

 

[700UW]

Facts? Something apparently you have no idea about.

AMFA is not a new organization it has been around for over 40 years.

And US has nothing to do with this so stop trying to cloud the issue and the IAM has nothing to do with so why do you keep trying to go off topic and not stick to the issue at hand?

If AA did not have a money problem then I guess you and the other employees are fools for giving concessions.

And yes I do have a pension a PBGC taken over pension but it still does exist and instead of a DBP US now has a DCP, we still get money put into an account everyweek for a pension.

Dell made $132,000 in 2003 according to AMFA's LM2, that is a fact.

Like I said, why does AMFA not have strike benefits?

Why are they begging for money on the internet?

Why were they not prepared for this strike?

And if you cant answer the question then dont bother replying with irrelivant things like US and the IAM this thread is about AMFA and its lack of money to support the strike.

 

[AMFAMAN]

Facts? Something apparently you have no idea about.

AMFA is not a new organization it has been around for over 40 years.

And US has nothing to do with this so stop trying to cloud the issue and the IAM has nothing to do with so why do you keep trying to go off topic and not stick to the issue at hand?

If AA did not have a money problem then I guess you and the other employees are fools for giving concessions.

And yes I do have a pension a PBGC taken over pension but it still does exist and instead of a DBP US now has a DCP, we still get money put into an account everyweek for a pension.

Dell made $132,000 in 2003 according to AMFA's LM2, that is a fact.

Like I said, why does AMFA not have strike benefits?

Why are they begging for money on the internet?

Why were they not prepared for this strike?

And if you cant answer the question then dont bother replying with irrelivant things like US and the IAM this thread is about AMFA and its lack of money to support the strike.

[post="292353"][/post]​

What do you care about a strike fund, US AIR IAM doesn't have the nads to hit the street anyway. Hell the IAM as a whole doesn't have the nads.

I will support the unionist on the street with $100 a week, how about you?

 

[700UW]

Can anyone answer the question instead of turning into an IAM or TWU thread?

This is about AMFA and the strike.

 

[FA Mikey]

Facts? Something apparently you have no idea about.

AMFA is not a new organization it has been around for over 40 years.

[post="292353"][/post]​

40 years you say, wow and they represented only Ozark for the majoity of that time. Yea why didnt they build a multi million doallr strike fund?




HI, reality, were over here. come join us..

 

[FA Mikey]

And US has nothing to do with this so stop trying to cloud the issue and the IAM has nothing to do with so why do you keep trying to go off topic and not stick to the issue at hand?

[post="292353"][/post]​

You are the one who brought IAM in to this. All about your awesome strike benefits and its preparedness. Now when reality and facts start to cloud your bizzare arguements, you dont want to hear about them. Go figure.

 

[FA Mikey]

If AA did not have a money problem then I guess you and the other employees are fools for giving concessions.

[post="292353"][/post]​

AA doesnt have a money problem? News to all of us. I sais AA is paying its bills and fullfilling its obligations to its vendors customres and employees. Unlike U who has screwed the vendors empolyees customers and the industry.

 

[FA Mikey]

And yes I do have a pension a PBGC taken over pension but it still does exist and instead of a DBP US now has a DCP, we still get money put into an account everyweek for a pension.

[post="292353"][/post]​

At the expense of who? Is it growing? How good will the benefits have grown by retirement?

 

[markkus757]

Regardless of which airline we're talking about, there are a lot of furloughs on the street right now. Any strike right now is not a good thing for the employee group attempting it. Too many people that would want back in and that's what is happening right now. If NWA ever organizes the maintenance correctly, this will be the new standard. These guys will not go away. Everyone thinks they are mostly irresponsible, lazy people who can't get jobs. I would guess that over 75% of the replacement workers used to work for a reputable airline that has laid off a good portion in the last 5 years. How long can either side hold out?

 

[FA Mikey]

Dell made $132,000 in 2003 according to AMFA's LM2, that is a fact.

Like I said, why does AMFA not have strike benefits?

Why are they begging for money on the internet?

Why were they not prepared for this strike?

[post="292353"][/post]​

Answered repeatedly. Comprehension problems?

 

[NWA/AMT]

A $100 a week for the second time and a union not paying strike benefits, not having a real strike fund and setting up a paypal account begging for money pretty much sums up that AMFA was not prepared for a strike at NWA.

But hey don't let the facts get in your way.

[post="292344"][/post]​

The AMFA membership has chosen in successive constitutions NOT to have a strike Fund, rejecting multiple proposals to set up one.

The paypal account was set up due to repeated offers of support from other organizations and individuals.

AMFA has been preparing for a strike at NWA since the summer of 2001, when NWA declared war on their mechanics.

But don't let facts get in the way of your anti-AMFA diatribe.

 

[aafsc]

OK, I'll bite. How do unions "enable those who weren't "born" with a silver spoon in their mouths to at least work at a job that gives them enough wages to buy a home...send kids to college and to provide for their "golden years".

No one in my family has ever been in a union. My mom and dad had $15 dollars to their name when they got married in 1947. They spoke no english and had no college education. I have never been in a union and there are more of 'us' than there are of 'you'. So how have the rest of us survived with out the union?

I know a union can protect the slackers and the incompetent once they are in a union.

We do agree on one thing though. UA should never have been allowed to operate in Ch 11 for 3 years much less be allowed to drop the pension.

[post="292225"][/post]​

The reason why non-union people make what they make is because they "ride the coattails" of union people. Prime example is DL. When the unionized carriers would get a raise for their employees, DL would give their employees slightly more.