ObamaCare Healthcare Professionals ?

[signals]

Your insurance premium quadrupling isn't Obama's fault; it's your negotiating committee's...

Well Kev you finally proved to me that I should keep out of airline affairs. In the public sector, in my view, if the greater accepts, the rest follow suit. It may take longer but eventually it will happen.

Secret secret I got a secret...

In the public sector any increase in insurance results in a raise to offset the increase. If firefighters and police accept the deals negotiated, then the rest must follow. If not this year, then next, or next, etc. From here it will affect the private sector. See ya about 3 years Kev because everything flows downhill.

Someone has to pay for the non-insureds health care...one way or another. Thus Obama Care!

 

[signals]

Your train of thought implies that insurance costs only started increasing in '08... They've been on the upswing a lot longer than that.

Regradless of how you feel about Obama, the fact remains that if Signal's T/A included a 4x increase in premiums one of 2 things occurred:

1. His premiums are really really low currently (he didn't mention what they were/what they'll be), and this is a relative increase.

2. They were in line with the rest of America, and his negotiating committee either traded the increase for something else, or did a complete faceplant.

You take public service for granted Kev. That is the bottom line is that I have to deal with the 'dirty' side of the public you don't know or appreciate.
1) Yes they are low but I deal with a side of the public you will never see. The general public sees public employees as a joke, until they have to pay for police fire teachers and sani-workers to name a few for the service they provide.

2) I provide a service to the rest of America that is without thanks. The reason for the increase, Kev, is because the unhealthy are living longer! So I am paying for them, plus have to pay for the healthy that are forced into Obama care.

Don't go with nme on this one, Kev, unlike the stereotype, I work for my paycheck.

 

[777 fixer]

Oh I don't know.

That much is obvious.

 

[Kev3188]

In the public sector any increase in insurance results in a raise to offset the increase.

So there ya go. Your premiums went up, but in exchange the membership received a raise to cover it. You maybe shoulda mentioned that when first bringing this up, but I guess a "my premiums quadrupled- it's Obama's fault!" soundbite plays better in here.

You take public service for granted Kev. That is the bottom line is that I have to deal with the 'dirty' side of the public you don't know or appreciate.

You could not be more wrong here. Do not make the mistake of lumping me in with people who have bought into the myth that all public sector employees are overpaid, underworked, lazy, blah, blah, blah.

 

[777 fixer]

So there ya go. Your premiums went up, but in exchange the membership received a raise to cover it. You maybe shoulda mentioned that when first bringing this up, but I guess a "my premiums quadrupled- it's Obama's fault!" soundbite plays better in here.

Has a nice ring to it does'nt it?!

 

[Knotbuyinit]

Your insurance premium quadrupling isn't Obama's fault; it's your negotiating committee's...

Speaking of negotiating committee's, what were the reasons behind so many unions applying for and receiving waivers to exempt them from participation in the ACA? It couldn't be because their health care premiums were going to quadruple or something could it?

 

[Knotbuyinit]

Your insurance premium quadrupling isn't Obama's fault; it's your negotiating committee's...

CBO to employers: Obamacare has $4B more in taxes than expected. But don't worry, you're insurance premiums under the AFFORDABLE Care Act will go down, Obama promised.

 

[southwind]

Speaking of negotiating committee's, what were the reasons behind so many unions applying for and receiving waivers to exempt them from participation in the ACA? It couldn't be because their health care premiums were going to quadruple or something could it?

I'm sure we won't get an answer to this one from the pro-union popcorn gallery, that frequents this site !

 

[Kev3188]

Speaking of negotiating committee's, what were the reasons behind so many unions applying for and receiving waivers to exempt them from participation in the ACA? It couldn't be because their health care premiums were going to quadruple or something could it?

Not necessarily, no...

 

[southwind]

Not necessarily, no...

Enlighten us please !

"How Many Businesses Are Exempt? The Final Number of ‘Obamacare’ Waivers Is In…"

"However, what’s slightly unsettling is the fact that the majority of the waivers were handed out to labor unions."

"A total of 96 waiver requests were denied by HHS. Why the healthcare law couldn’t be “flexible” for those 96 requests is anyone’s guess."

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/how-many-businesses-are-exempt-the-final-number-of-obamacare-waivers-is-in/

I'll bet my next pay check, which increased this month, that "NONE" of the above 96 waivers denied, involved labor unions !

 

[Kev3188]

I'll bet my next pay check, which increased this month, that "NONE" of the above 96 waivers denied, involved labor unions !

I'm still waiting for the last check you owe me...

http://wheresmywaive...enials-2-11.pdf

Looks like I'm now due another one. Message me to find out where to send it to...

 

[southwind]

My bad..................musta used all the waivers on these unions !

1. Indiana Area UFCW Union Locals and Retail Food Employers’ Health and Welfare Plan covers 6,885 enrollees.
2. UFCW & Participating Food Industry Employers Tri-State Health & Welfare Fund covers 107 enrollees.
3. UFCW Local 1500 Welfare Fund covers 77 enrollees.
4. UFCW Local One Health Care Fund covers 4,335 enrollees.
5. Local 888 UFCW covers 4,004 enrollees.
6. UFCW Local 1262 and Employers Health & Welfare Fund covers 3,028 enrollees.
7. Local 377 UFCW covers 1,142 enrollees.
8. UFCW Local 371 Amalgamated Welfare Fund covers 3,800 enrollees.
9. UFCW Allied Trade Health & Welfare Trust covers 68 enrollees
10. UFCW Local 227 covers 1,125 enrollees.
11. UFCW Maximus Local 455 covers 59 enrollees.
12. UFCW Local 1262 covers 5,390 enrollees.
13. United Food and Commercial Workers Retail Employees and Employers Health
and Welfare Plan covers 98 enrollees
14. United Food & Commercial Workers Unions and Employers Midwest Health Benefits Fund covers 821 enrollees.
15. United Food and Commercial Workers and Employers Arizona covers 516 enrollees.
16. United Food and Commercial Workers Union Local 1000 and Kroger Dallas Health and Welfare Plan covers 7,389 enrollees.
17. Delmarva United Food and Commercial Workers covers 2,405 enrollees.
18. United Food & Commercial Workers Unions and Employers Local No. 348 Health & Welfare Fund covers 13,663 enrollees.
19. United Food and Commercial Workers Local 1445 New Hampshire covers 148 enrollees.
20. The waiver for United Food and Commercial Workers Local 1459 and Contributing Employers Health and Welfare Fund covers just four enrollees.
21. United Food and Commercial Workers Local 464a covers 8,228 enrollees.
22. United Food and Commercial Workers Local 911 covers 582 enrollees.
23. United Food and Commercial Workers Union Local 1000 covers 3,855 enrollees.
24. Wisconsin United Food & Commercial Workers Unions and Employers Health Plan covers 775 enrollees.
25. United Food and Commercial Workers Union (Mount Laurel, NJ) covers 4,100 enrollees.
26. United Food and Commercial Workers Union Local 1459 covers 1,400 enrollees.
27. United Food and Commercial Workers and Participating Employers Interstate Health and Welfare Fund covers 6,780 enrollees.
28. United Food and Commercial Workers Union Local 1995 covers 2,779 enrollees.

http://www.rightwingnews.com/democrats/obama-gives-obamacare-waivers-to-28-unions-his-big-donors/

 

[Kev3188]

My bad..................musta used all the waivers on these unions !

No, your "bad" was claiming that no unions were denied waivers, and then being impulsive enough to bet your paycheck on it.

Any mailing method besides comail is cool with me. You guys get paid on the 31st, right?

 

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