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Well like it or not TWA is a part of AA. I would give the same respect to someone from Reno, Air Cal or Ozark who had a story to share about their history. We should embrace our combined histories instead of trying to continually bury them. That would be true integration.
 
Well like it or not TWA is a part of AA. I would give the same respect to someone from Reno, Air Cal or Ozark who had a story to share about their history. We should embrace our combined histories instead of trying to continually bury them. That would be true integration.

Geeezzzzz.... Don't go gettin your panties all in a wad sky, I wasn't making an attempt at insulting 'FORMER' TWA, or the Pontiff!

Seems many EX-TWA'rs have a chip on their shoulder, why is that? :unsure:

Regards,
Local 12
 
Geeezzzzz.... Don't go gettin your panties all in a wad sky, I wasn't making an attempt at insulting 'FORMER' TWA, or the Pontiff!

Seems many EX-TWA'rs have a chip on their shoulder, why is that? :unsure:

Regards,
Local 12

You asked what this had to do with American. Our history is now your history and I was just "musing" about a former time that was special for so many of us. It isn't a chip on a shoulder, but a reminder that American is made up of MANY former memories. I love to talk with long time AA employee to hear the "back in the day" memories. We learn from our past and our past can serve us well in the future. Now back to the water cooler.
 
I wonder who has the "hornor" this time?
Alitalia.

Boston Globe:
Today, Benedict is to visit ground zero, say Mass at Yankee Stadium, and then, at 8 p.m., board the chartered Alitalia jet nicknamed Shepherd One for his return flight to Rome.

It seems as if they have kept the plane stateside for the duration of the Pope's visit.

New York Times:
The pope flew to New York on the Alitalia papal plane, called “Shepherd One,†from Washington, where he had largely devoted his efforts to addressing the issue of sexual abuse by priests.

You'd enjoy reading this article.

KCK museum has sleepy relic from past papal visit:
According to TWA’s historical accounts, Kansas City’s former hometown airline first transported a pope in 1965, when it flew Pope Paul VI roundtrip from Rome to New York to address the United Nations.

Riddle recalls that in 1979, TWA outmaneuvered Pan-American for the right to fly Pope John Paul II back to Rome from the United States after the first of his seven trips here.

That was good publicity for TWA. But it was bad news for Riddle and his union colleagues at TWA’s overhaul base near Kansas City International Airport.

They were given just three days to build a bed and other accoutrements for the overnight flight to Rome. To make the pontiff comfortable, TWA converted a first-class lounge area on one of its 747s into a bedroom.

Riddle and his colleagues built a bed frame to sit on the tracks of seats removed from the plane. They made a mattress of foam and a seat belt for the bed. “I always made the comment that the pope didn’t have a seat belt, he had a bed belt,†Riddle says.

They made and upholstered a headboard and footboard, and sewed gray curtains that hung around the bed for privacy. They even made the sheets — percale — and a cotton chenille comforter.

They built a footstool. And they took a table out of a 707 and covered it with vinyl for the pope to use for his meals and writing.

The first time Riddle visited the museum to see the bed, a volunteer started giving him the lowdown on its history. “I said, ‘Honey, I know the whole story,’ †Riddle says.

After the 1979 flight, the bed sat in a warehouse for years. But TWA agreed to donate it after the museum learned about it.

The bed didn’t stay put very long, though, before TWA needed it back for a second papal flight. The airline packed up the bed and took it away. When TWA brought it back, it sent back more than just the bed, curator Adrienne Nastav says.

The Pope Room includes menus from the flights, John Paul’s toothbrush and toothpaste, and a vase with three yellow roses and three white carnations — his favorite flowers.

His last visit to the United States was in January 1999, and Linn Kalahurka of the Northland remembers it well. She was a TWA flight attendant when the airline took the pope back to Rome.

The crew spent two days in training learning about the pontiff’s security procedures, how to address him — “Holy Father†— and what he liked to eat. She remembers that he was a breakfast man and liked eggs.

Crew members brought rosaries and Bibles for the pope to bless. Kalahurka had him bless a cross, which now hangs in her home.

“It was hard for me to believe that I was with the Holy Father,†says Kalahurka, a member of St. Therese parish in the Northland. “I remember standing there thinking ‘I can’t believe this.’ â€

TWA dubbed itself the “official papal charter.†It called its specially configured jets Shepherd I.

And TWA?

That stood for Traveling With Angels.
 
Popes, cardinals, bishops, priests, ministers, rabbis...Organized religion is a ploy of the ruling class to subjugate the masses. 'Let the capitalists rob you of all your wealth, my son...YOUR reward will be in heaven"What a racket!
It wasn't the message of"love" that got Christ crucified. It was the fact that he ran out the merchants and money changers from the temple.
When Christ returns (and He will), I doubt he will be associating with the likes of Bush, the Pope or any other representative of the oppressor class. :down: Didn't he hang out with prostitutes and sinners?
 
Yeah, AZ could afford to do that. Its not like they're losing money or anything ... ... ... :lol:
It was a 777, no less.

The Star-Ledger - 4,000 wait for Pope's farewell in JFK airport hangar:
Close to 4,000 people already have gathered in Hangar 9 at John F. Kennedy Airport to await the arrival of Pope Benedict XVI, who returns to the Vatican tonight after a six-day U.S. tour...

From the window of the airport, attendees can see the Shepherd One -- the Alitalia Boeing 777 which carried the pontiff to Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland on Tuesday, and which will carry him back to Italy at 8:30 tonight.
 
Good ridance! :up:
How many poor in the third world could have been fed with all the money spent on this little excursion? :down:
Look out Ed! You may end up doing some corn husking for criticizing Il Papa! :lol: :lol:
 

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