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PIT-CDG on DAL?

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Every other major carrier has been approached to fly PIT-Europe, and all have declined. That speaks volumes about the market potential for this market. If true, it won't last.
 
"The service is expected to start with four to five flights a week, with at least two of those originating in Pittsburgh."


So for the ones *not* originating in PIT, where will they bring passengers in from? CVG-PIT-CDG?
 
The service will last through the summer and be dropped. Given that Pittsburgh's own statistics show only 325 local passengers a day going to Europe, the chance that even a third of them will opt for going to Paris and then transferring at CDG is slim. And without the feed of a hub, there will be a lot of empty seats losing a lot of money for Delta. It will be a GREAT opportunity for pass riders to get to Paris in the summer, though. I will keep this in mind. Thanks, Delta.
 
Wow, this flight will be a real gangbuster for DL. Maybe we should fight back with a CDG flight from their soon to be dead CVG hub, or does Comair already operate in that market? Look for more "Stiff" competiton from DL when they add a CDG flight from BWI... :up:
 
Every other major carrier has been approached to fly PIT-Europe, and all have declined. That speaks volumes about the market potential for this market. If true, it won't last.
if this is true, PIT-CDG, it probably has come about because of local business requesting the need for an international flight?.. keeping in mind there is an AirFrance hub, and DAL/AF operates basically as one airline over the Atlantic, it would make a lot of sense. I wonder if an international configured 757 would be considered? I am sure a lot of local travelers would appreciate an international flight as well! I thought USAirways peformed relatively well(internationally) in PIT at one time so there must have been some need for those flights?
 
http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/081106/154020.html

Both RDU and PIT are getting 757 service to Paris. Interesting to see how these go. I imagine my own AA might be a little offended that someone else is offering Europe service out of RDU. Interesting to see what their move will be.
 
I thought USAirways peformed relatively well(internationally) in PIT at one time so there must have been some need for those flights?
There was a need for those flights when USAirways had a hub operation and fed the flights. The O&D market for Europe flights from PIT has never been very strong, so it doesn't surprise me that this DAL service is apparently not always going to originate in PIT.

When BA ran a 747-400 to LHR, it stopped in PHL on the way over and IAD on the way back. They later ran PIT-LGW with a 767 before abandoning it all together when their relationship with US went South and they hooked up with AA and OneWorld.

PIT flew to FRA since the late 80's and abandoned it a few years ago. They tried with LGW and CDG, but without feeder traffic it was a money pit and fell victim to the many cuts at PIT since 9/11.

Good luck Delta. PIT will appreciate the effort and then blast you for pulling out within a year of launching service.
 
There was a need for those flights when USAirways had a hub operation and fed the flights. The O&D market for Europe flights from PIT has never been very strong, so it doesn't surprise me that this DAL service is apparently not always going to originate in PIT.

When BA ran a 747-400 to LHR, it stopped in PHL on the way over and IAD on the way back. They later ran PIT-LGW with a 767 before abandoning it all together when their relationship with US went South and they hooked up with AA and OneWorld.

PIT flew to FRA since the late 80's and abandoned it a few years ago. They tried with LGW and CDG, but without feeder traffic it was a money pit and fell victim to the many cuts at PIT since 9/11.

Good luck Delta. PIT will appreciate the effort and then blast you for pulling out within a year of launching service.
Did USAirways operate any International hubs? because it seems these flights(that do not make sense at times) seem to work moreso especially when a flight is routed to an International hub including the ability for multiple international connections as well)
 
Having an International hub as a destination from a city that has minimal Intl. traffic is meaningless. You can only spread those few Intl. passengers originating in PIT so far. Those flights were marginal even when they had connecting feed into PIT. While the starter of this post is gloating, he forgets who will be doing his job on the ramp ground handling them....DGS or perhaps Comair..... :lol:
 
meaningless?? that is quite an assumption!
Well, if you serve an Intl. Hub or any other city from a city that has zilch for O&D traffic what else could it be? What next, CDG from MDT? This along with the RDU flight are nothing more than an "Experiment" to see what happens if we toss in a few Intl flights from non-hub stations. If AA dumped the RDU route years ago when they still had some sort of a hub there, why on earth would DL think that they could all of the sudden without connection traffic? Call it what you want, and only time will tell how long they last before the plug is pulled. While the RDU flight may pull some passengers away from CLT, it will also get those who would have gone thru ATL to connect.
 
Well, if you serve an Intl. Hub or any other city from a city that has zilch for O&D traffic what else could it be? What next, CDG from MDT? This along with the RDU flight are nothing more than an "Experiment" to see what happens if we toss in a few Intl flights from non-hub stations. If AA dumped the RDU route years ago when they still had some sort of a hub there, why on earth would DL think that they could all of the sudden without connection traffic? Call it what you want, and only time will tell how long they last before the plug is pulled. While the RDU flight may pull some passengers away from CLT, it will also get those who would have gone thru ATL to connect.
zilch?? pulling the plug??(before anything even is announced??) that is another assumption on top of another! I thought the topic was PIT not RDU? understanding what you are implying, top managment(who makes these decisions to leave a market) sometimes doesnt mean there was or will be "zilch" for a need or the desire/request for continued service in the future..unfortunately..all of us in this industry have tragically witnessed mis-management across the board, sometimes it seems they do what they think is necessary(or not) for whatever reasons...there must be a need for service if the community requests it..if these proposals are to be successful, time will tell.
 
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