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On 2/15/2003 12:52:29 PM JAMAKE1 wrote:
UAL Management is seeking to gut our AFA Agreement, so I would like to know what specific changes were made to your contract.
Since UAL and US had similar agreements I am wondering what you had to surrender in terms of work rules, duty rigs, base pay, pay factors, per diem, holiday pay, etc. Could someone provide me with this info in as much detail as possible? Thanks much.
Signed,
A not-so-hopeful UAL F/A
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On 2/15/2003 12:52:29 PM JAMAKE1 wrote:
UAL Management is seeking to gut our AFA Agreement, so I would like to know what specific changes were made to your contract.
Since UAL and US had similar agreements I am wondering what you had to surrender in terms of work rules, duty rigs, base pay, pay factors, per diem, holiday pay, etc. Could someone provide me with this info in as much detail as possible? Thanks much.
Signed,
A not-so-hopeful UAL F/A
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Along with what was said above...
The % wage cut currently is at 10.4% which includes the 2% forfieted this past Nov. 1. Holiday pay was preserved, per diem was reduced by .10cents. Vacation days were hit big, as well as what the day is worth was reduced by .30 minutes. OJI, LTD benefit reductions, Sick bank usuage is the worst. If you call in sick there is a $200 pay cut that month and rises for reserves.
Medical contributions, co pays, scripts, deductables have huge hits rising costs every year...these contributions are at nearly 20% per year increase going forward and up every damn year.
For many f/as who have lost their jobs, their wages do not snap back, their fate is Mid-Atlantic, our new LCC that is the American Eagle contract (worst in the industry). Uniform allowance gone, longevity pay gone, reserve override pay gone. STAFFING LEVELS HAVE BEEN DRASTICALLY REDUCED AT FAA MINIMUMS CREATED MUCH MORE FURLOUGHS RECENTLY. We are getting an additional wage hit when we go to war by 5% for 18 months, then the co. will start to pay it back on a monthly basis for next 18 months. Medical goes up again March. Total wage cut including medical contributions (option 3, and 5% for war event(all W2 hits) approx. $800- $1300 per month depending where you are in years of service. This does not include Sick bank hit, uniform cleaning allowance gone, longevity pay- reserve override gone, any vacation hits, oji, ltd, duty rigs (min. day, and 1 for 2 changed)Reserve GUARANTEE NEVER WAS INCREASED TO GO ALONG WITH THE NO PASSING. UA has a higher guarantee for reserve than U. We rank bottom for the major 6.
Difficult to calculate all that. Also, Preferrential bidding system will be implemented for lineholders, No minimum trips for AIL sheet...language deleted. Crew meals gone.Supplemental Life Insurance for already retired folks G-O-N-E. This is the "short version"; want the long?
If I missed something, someone jump in. Oh, and all of this was retroactive so we could qualify for the ATSB, that we never did,. At that time we jumped right into bankruptcy for our "fresh new start". So, ATSB qualifying was put on a back burner, until last week.
Many of our furloughed f/as 85% are Voluntary and are activly looking for better employment while collecting unemployment. First round of concessions is worth $76 Million per year for 6. and second round of concessions this winter was over $26 million. Co. will not cost out.
I think they know we would all die of heart attacks if we saw the figure. 5% additional paycut was not calculated, by the Co. nor was the over 800 f/a job reduction for taking the staffing down to minimums. So, if we here at AFA calculated this, the total package is well over 150 million per year for 6 years...and there is only 5,700 of us left.Co. would not give any group a $ amount saving for the job losses. I bet with all the money U labor groups gave, we could have bought both U and UA. F/As alone since 9/11 lost approx. 4,800 jobs system wide for U. Difference between U and UA is that U management had us abrogate our own agreements with our stamp of approval through ratification.
This gives you some indication of the sacrifice we're talking about over here.
PS. Heard a rumor that Siegel was quoted as saying that the labor groups would take 5% wage hit for every war/terrorist occurence for next 6 years. This is truly in his dreams...no such written language in our ratified proposal. It's a one shot deal..period. And that one shot deal war occurence has to have an adverse effect on the industry...worse than presently to qualify. Who will determine that may have to be left up to an arbitrator or in the court system.
PSS. And here is a nice kicker, AFA gets a 2.2% stake in the co. for AFAs approx. $900million throughout the life of the agreement, and the government gets 10% stake for placing FDIC on the guarantee for lenders, and the gov. may never give one brown, shiny, Lincoln cent.