Retired Aircraft

[sastal]

I was wondering whether anyone (pilots and kosmo in particular) could tell me in what year UA's 727s and 737s were retired from service following 9/11. Does anyone know whether those aircraft in particular were leased or owned? Thanks for your help.

 

[Fly]

His name is Cosmo (oh, and since you only want pilots or Kosmo ( 😛 ), I'll refrain from answering your question).

Sincerely,

Glenn Tilton

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

I was wondering whether anyone (pilots and kosmo in particular) could tell me in what year UA's 727s and 737s were retired from service following 9/11. Does anyone know whether those aircraft in particular were leased or owned? Thanks for your help.

The 727s and the 737-222/291s were parked almost immediately following 9-11. Around late October/early November 2001.

I'll see if i can dig up the lease/own info.

 

[sastal]

I got ya so badly the last time that you couldn’t resist, aye Fly? After you said that UA’s routes and CO’s would “complimentâ€￾ each other, I just couldn’t take a chance on this question. If only I had a dime... :bleh:

"I'll see if i can dig up the lease/own info."

Thank you so much, ThirdSeat.

 

[Cosmo]

Actually, I appreciate all of the attention no matter how you spell my name. 😛 And the B727-200s and B737-200s were all taken out of service and then retired by United at the end of October 2001 (on the time-change weekend).

Cosmo (with a "C")

 

[Fly]

I got ya so badly the last time that you couldn

I got ya so badly the last time that you couldn

 

[sastal]

Thank you for the tip, Cosmo. I needed the info for my latest research on retired corporate assets.

It seems as though someone on these boards never learned how to spell or define the word colloquialism. :mf_boff:

 

[Fly]

Who are you? You really should try to pick your battles.

 

[sastal]

After all this time, you don't know who I am? I believe you were the one who started this.

 

[scuba]

It may be too late for your project, but you should be able to find an annual report from 2000 and then again from 2001. It always listed the number in the fleet, the number owned, leased, and on order. Also, if you still know somebody with a Unimatic sign-on they can look it up but I would have to think of the entry to type in to get what the current status of the plane number was. I will try to dig up my notes from load planning and see if the notes are in there. I want to say it was something like, CURRTG/#### with the #### being the four digit plane number that was on the nose of the aircraft. I'm sure by now they are all out of the system.


On page 34 of the 2000 annual report it stated.....

----------------------------------------------Leased as...
-----------Total in fleet----Owned---Operating--Capital----Avg Age
727-200--------75----------67---------0---------------8-------------22
737-200--------24----------24---------0---------------0-------------22

The planeed retirement was....
----------------2001--------2002------2003 and beyond
727-200-------25----------25--------25


Scheduled delivery as of 12/31/2000 was....

--------------2001--------2002-----2003 and beyond---Total
N/B------------33----------44--------15-----------------------92
W/B------------10-----------5---------0-----------------------15
Total----------43----------49--------15----------------------107

More than enough to replace the 727-200 fleet. However, most were the A319-100 with a seating of 120 to replace 141 so I don't know if it would have gained in total seats available. However, I'm sure the fuel savings would have offset the difference in the seats available.


IIRC United donated some of the 737-200's to various flying schools and saw that the 727-200's were sent out of the US so they would not have to compete with the planes. I don't know how far back Newsreal is kept, but again if you know somebody have them search around the end of October 2001 if Newsreal is still available. I think that it was only retained for a year or two, but I could be wrong.

Anyway, thanks for the stoll down memory lane when UAL was on top! 😀

UAL 2000 Annual Report

 

[sastal]

That's great info, Scuba. Thank you so much.