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And as a result we have this:
Gosnell is facing charges of murder in the third degree for the death of 41-year-old Karnamaya Mongar. Mrs. Mongar died on November 20, 2009, when she was overdosed with anesthetics prescribed by Gosnell. He is also facing seven murder charges for the deaths of infants who were killed after being born viable and alive during the sixth, seventh, or eighth month of pregnancy. Gosnell is also facing numerous other charges.
He "induced labor, forced the live birth of viable babies in the sixth, seventh, eighth month of pregnancy and then killed those babies by cutting into the back of the neck with scissors and severing their spinal cord,"
"These killings became so routine that no one could put an exact number on them," the grand jury report said. "They were considered 'standard procedure."'
Gosnell is suspected of killing hundreds of living babies over the course of his 30-year practice.
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Also thanks to R v W:
Religious Leaders Call for New Efforts to Lower the City’s ‘Chilling’ 40% Abortion Rate
Archbishop Timothy M. Dolan of New York joined other local religious leaders on Thursday in calling for a new effort to reduce the number of abortions in the city. The annual figure has averaged 90,000 in recent years, or about 40 percent of all pregnancies, twice the national rate.
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Shocking pics from the Grand Jury Report in the house of horrors from Women’s Medical Society, a clinic operated in West Philadelphia, at 38th Street and Lancaster Avenue by Kermit B. Gosnell, M.D.
Oh yeah remember that 38 years ago today women regained control over their bodies and reproductive rights. 🙁
Oh yeah remember that 38 years ago today women regained control over their bodies and reproductive rights. 🙁
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You remove God out of a society and you end up with a high school where 90 teenage girls are preggo.
In Memphis, the teen pregnancy rate is between 15 percent and 20 percent – and in Frayser, the rate is 26 percent, said Deborah Hester Harrison, executive director of Memphis’ Girls Inc.
In Memphis, the teen pregnancy rate is between 15 percent and 20 percent – and in Frayser, the rate is 26 percent, said Deborah Hester Harrison, executive director of Memphis’ Girls Inc.
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We were having a similar discussion on a different forum and I thought this info was interesting. Not sure how they correlate but I did find it interesting.
Teen Pregnancy
Teen Pregnancy rate per 1,000
Rank Countries Amount
# 1 United States: 52.1
# 2 United Kingdom: 30.8
# 3 New Zealand: 29.8
# 4 Slovakia: 26.9
# 5 Hungary: 26.5
# 6 Iceland: 24.7
# 7 Portugal: 21.2
# 8 Canada: 20.2
= 9 Ireland: 18.7
= 9 Poland: 18.7
# 11 Australia: 18.4
# 12 Czech Republic: 16.4
# 13 Austria: 14
# 14 Germany: 13.1
# 15 Norway: 12.4
# 16 Greece: 11.8
# 17 Belgium: 9.9
# 18 Luxembourg: 9.7
# 19 France: 9.3
# 20 Finland: 9.2
# 21 Denmark: 8.1
# 22 Spain: 7.9
# 23 Italy: 6.6
# 24 Sweden: 6.5
# 25 Netherlands: 6.2
# 26 Switzerland: 5.5
# 27 Japan: 4.6
# 28 Korea, South: 2.9
Abortion Rates
Abortion rate
country year % notes
Greenland 2007 51.1
Russia 2008 44.7
Guadeloupe 2007 39.8
Nagorno-Karabakh 2007 38.1
Cuba 2007 37.0
Romania 2008 36.6
Estonia 2008 34.4
Bulgaria 2008 32.0
Martinique 2007 31.6
China (PRC) 2007 31.1
Hungary 2008 30.8
Latvia 2008 30.4
Moldova 2008 29.0
Cocos Islands 1978 28.6
Belarus 2008 28.2
Georgia 2008 28.1
Belize 1996 28.0
Kazakhstan 2008 26.8
Sweden 2008 25.8
Korea, South (ROK) 1999 25.6
New Caledonia 1998 25.2
French Guiana 2007 25.0
Slovakia 2008 24.3
Reunion 2007 23.5
Singapore 2008 23.4
Armenia 2008 23.2
Serbia 2008 23.2
Seychelles 2006 23.2
Vietnam 2007 23.2
United States 2005 22.6
Ukraine 2008 21.9
New Zealand 2008 21.6
France 2007 21.4
Norway 2008 20.9
United Kingdom 2008 20.9
Canada 2006 20.7
Lithuania 2008 20.5
Macedonia 2008 20.5
Australia 2007 20.2
Hong Kong 2005 19.9
Jersey 2004 19.9 *
Japan 2007 19.1
Denmark 2006 18.8
Albania 2008 18.7
Slovenia 2008 18.5
Dominican Republic 2005 18.2
Spain 2008 18.2
Montenegro 2007 17.7
Italy 2008 17.4
Turkey 2008 17.0
Croatia 2008 16.9
Iceland 2008 16.5
Mayotte 2006 16.0
Czech Republic 2008 15.8
Guernsey 2000 15.0 *
Finland 2008 14.9
Mongolia 2008 14.5
Germany 2008 14.4
Azerbaijan 2008 14.2
Kyrgyzstan 2008 14.0
Belgium 2007 13.5 *
Netherlands 2007 13.5
Greece 2005 13.3
Guyana 2007 13.3
Andorra 1995 13.0
Taiwan (ROC) 1999 13.0
Isle of Man 2007 12.8 *
Switzerland 2008 12.4
Portugal 2008 11.9
Bahrain 2002 11.4
Anguilla 2005 11.2
Israel 2008 11.1
Barbados 1995 10.3
Puerto Rico 2006 10.2
Tunisia 2008 10.1
Costa Rica 2005 10.0
Bermuda 1984 9.9
Turkmenistan 2008 9.9
Turks and Caicos Islands 2005 9.1
Tajikistan 2007 8.7
South Africa 2007 7.7
Saint Helena 1990 7.1
Ireland 2008 5.8 *
Uzbekistan 2008 5.8
Faeroe Islands 2008 5.3
Kosovo 2006 4.6
Bosnia and Herzegovina 2001 3.2
Austria 2000 3.0
Suriname 1994 3.0
India 2004 2.6
Gibraltar 2008 1.7 *
Qatar 2005 1.3
Malta 2008 0.9 *
Venezuela 1968 0.8
United Arab Emirates 2006 0.10 *
Mexico 2007 0.09 *
Poland 2007 0.09 *
Botswana 1984 0.04
Chile 1991 0.02
Luxembourg 1997 0.02 *
Panama 2000 0.02
This article kind of summarizes the trend in the US. Seems that both the pregnancy rate as well as the abortion rates are on the decline but as indicated in the top two stats, the US is number one in teen pregnancies and we are the highest developed country (except for Sweden) when it comes to abortions.
US teen pregnancy and Abortion stats
Teen Pregnancy
Teen Pregnancy rate per 1,000
Rank Countries Amount
# 1 United States: 52.1
# 2 United Kingdom: 30.8
# 3 New Zealand: 29.8
# 4 Slovakia: 26.9
# 5 Hungary: 26.5
# 6 Iceland: 24.7
# 7 Portugal: 21.2
# 8 Canada: 20.2
= 9 Ireland: 18.7
= 9 Poland: 18.7
# 11 Australia: 18.4
# 12 Czech Republic: 16.4
# 13 Austria: 14
# 14 Germany: 13.1
# 15 Norway: 12.4
# 16 Greece: 11.8
# 17 Belgium: 9.9
# 18 Luxembourg: 9.7
# 19 France: 9.3
# 20 Finland: 9.2
# 21 Denmark: 8.1
# 22 Spain: 7.9
# 23 Italy: 6.6
# 24 Sweden: 6.5
# 25 Netherlands: 6.2
# 26 Switzerland: 5.5
# 27 Japan: 4.6
# 28 Korea, South: 2.9
Abortion Rates
Abortion rate
country year % notes
Greenland 2007 51.1
Russia 2008 44.7
Guadeloupe 2007 39.8
Nagorno-Karabakh 2007 38.1
Cuba 2007 37.0
Romania 2008 36.6
Estonia 2008 34.4
Bulgaria 2008 32.0
Martinique 2007 31.6
China (PRC) 2007 31.1
Hungary 2008 30.8
Latvia 2008 30.4
Moldova 2008 29.0
Cocos Islands 1978 28.6
Belarus 2008 28.2
Georgia 2008 28.1
Belize 1996 28.0
Kazakhstan 2008 26.8
Sweden 2008 25.8
Korea, South (ROK) 1999 25.6
New Caledonia 1998 25.2
French Guiana 2007 25.0
Slovakia 2008 24.3
Reunion 2007 23.5
Singapore 2008 23.4
Armenia 2008 23.2
Serbia 2008 23.2
Seychelles 2006 23.2
Vietnam 2007 23.2
United States 2005 22.6
Ukraine 2008 21.9
New Zealand 2008 21.6
France 2007 21.4
Norway 2008 20.9
United Kingdom 2008 20.9
Canada 2006 20.7
Lithuania 2008 20.5
Macedonia 2008 20.5
Australia 2007 20.2
Hong Kong 2005 19.9
Jersey 2004 19.9 *
Japan 2007 19.1
Denmark 2006 18.8
Albania 2008 18.7
Slovenia 2008 18.5
Dominican Republic 2005 18.2
Spain 2008 18.2
Montenegro 2007 17.7
Italy 2008 17.4
Turkey 2008 17.0
Croatia 2008 16.9
Iceland 2008 16.5
Mayotte 2006 16.0
Czech Republic 2008 15.8
Guernsey 2000 15.0 *
Finland 2008 14.9
Mongolia 2008 14.5
Germany 2008 14.4
Azerbaijan 2008 14.2
Kyrgyzstan 2008 14.0
Belgium 2007 13.5 *
Netherlands 2007 13.5
Greece 2005 13.3
Guyana 2007 13.3
Andorra 1995 13.0
Taiwan (ROC) 1999 13.0
Isle of Man 2007 12.8 *
Switzerland 2008 12.4
Portugal 2008 11.9
Bahrain 2002 11.4
Anguilla 2005 11.2
Israel 2008 11.1
Barbados 1995 10.3
Puerto Rico 2006 10.2
Tunisia 2008 10.1
Costa Rica 2005 10.0
Bermuda 1984 9.9
Turkmenistan 2008 9.9
Turks and Caicos Islands 2005 9.1
Tajikistan 2007 8.7
South Africa 2007 7.7
Saint Helena 1990 7.1
Ireland 2008 5.8 *
Uzbekistan 2008 5.8
Faeroe Islands 2008 5.3
Kosovo 2006 4.6
Bosnia and Herzegovina 2001 3.2
Austria 2000 3.0
Suriname 1994 3.0
India 2004 2.6
Gibraltar 2008 1.7 *
Qatar 2005 1.3
Malta 2008 0.9 *
Venezuela 1968 0.8
United Arab Emirates 2006 0.10 *
Mexico 2007 0.09 *
Poland 2007 0.09 *
Botswana 1984 0.04
Chile 1991 0.02
Luxembourg 1997 0.02 *
Panama 2000 0.02
This article kind of summarizes the trend in the US. Seems that both the pregnancy rate as well as the abortion rates are on the decline but as indicated in the top two stats, the US is number one in teen pregnancies and we are the highest developed country (except for Sweden) when it comes to abortions.
US teen pregnancy and Abortion stats
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Except of course for all the females killed by abortion....
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Yes there is that.
Either a woman has control over her body or she does not. I will not be the one who tries to tell a woman she will not. Quite a few women and their fetuses were dying because of botched abortions prior to them being legalized. Who knows how many womens lives were ruined or drastically altered due to an unwanted pregnancy. I think making all abortions illegal except in case where the womans life is at risk is a violation of a womans right to privacy. I do not think the COTUS would support that.
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