Rumor Control!

[MCI transplant]

<_< ----- Has anyone heard this one? There's a "unsubstantiated" rumor floating around the MCIE floor. ----- Goes like this! It seem Delta may want their Dallas hanger back!!! ----- Probably wishful thinking by locals! Or is it???

 

[Tex-Mech]

<_< ----- Has anyone heard this one? There's a "unsubstantiated" rumor floating around the MCIE floor. ----- Goes like this! It seem Delta may want their Dallas hanger back!!! ----- Probably wishful thinking by locals! Or is it???

Pretty old rumor from last summer.

 

[Rogallo]

And there's a rumor out there that we're getting all our pay and benefits back!!!

 

[AA767JET]

Since this is a rumor topic QnA
Has anyone heard of any future headcount cuts in title I (AMT'S) at ORD ???

 

[MCI transplant]

Pretty old rumor from last summer.

<_< ----- O.K., Old rumor! But I'm curious. What are the particulars on that Hanger? Does the City own it? Does Delta have a lease on it, and subleasing it to AA? Or are they out of the picture totally? ----- Anyone know? :huh:

 

[Buckky]

Since this is a rumor topic QnA
Has anyone heard of any future headcount cuts in title I (AMT'S) at ORD ???

It would depend on how many Eagle flights and AA flights there are. The more Eagle flights there would be less AA mechanics.......

 

[MCI transplant]

It would depend on how many Eagle flights and AA flights there are. The more Eagle flights there would be less AA mechanics.......

<_< -----Really!!? 😉

 

[TWU informer]

Has anyone heard that management will take pay and benfit cuts, reduce headcount by 30% if we will just give them what they want from us?

 

[Buckky]

<_< -----Really!!? 😉

Yes Really!


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American Airlines and American Eagle
Though most of what I am posting is at this point rumor and has been burning the phone lines all weekend in Chicago. Sources that wish to stay nameless will only confirm that there will major changes coming to AA and AE and a major announcement at the end of the month. For AE there was a legal deadline coming up on January 18 in regards to grievances and court cases in connection with pilot issues. IT’s to confusing here to explain it all. However, prior to the deadline AMR came to the unions with ways to clear the books and set the stage for the future for both AA and AE. Piece things together from all the different sources and you will get a clear picture that AA is looking to create extraordinary changes. AA (ALPA) & AE (APA) are close to agreeing and signing (if they have not already done so) to combine both the AE pilots seniority list and the AA seniority list. Creating one seniority list for the pilots between both divisions of AMR. This agreement would allow AE pilots to cross over into the AA operation when an opening occurred, while AA pilots could cross over to the AE system in the same manner. Whichever pilot crosses over to the other side would retain company seniority, but enter the other side on the junior scale. But the restriction to crossing between AA&AE would be gone. This agreement would remove the past restrictions on the size and scope of what aircraft AE operates. Now hold on to your knickers and you’ll see why the buzz about blew Chicago apart CRJ. AA signs a letter of intent with Bombardier for a large AE order for the new 130 seat. With the removal of the scope clause it releases AE to fly any aircraft. AE will have a major expansion as we take over huge amounts of AA domestic flying, While AA decrease their domestic flying. AA will need less Flight attendants. AA goes to cross utilization for the F/A’s and one reserve pool instead of current domestic and international operations .AA would need less F/A’s, but AE would need massive numbers. Info is that AA would AA would 900-1000 less F/A’s, but AE would need nearly as many to build up their numbers. AE changing from our current system of attendance to match AA’s attendance program, for missed assignments, late calls sick days, etc. AA&AE will follow up with the single seniority list for pilots with one single seniority list for the F/A’s. AMR has over 2.5 billion in cash to add to its already high cash war chest. Now I don’t need to tell any of you what this would mean. It means a total and complete alteration to the AA as we know it. The pilot’s scope clause has always held AMR in check to what they can turn over to AE. But, in settling the outstanding greivanceces, lawsuits and removing the scope clause it opens the barn door wide open with what can be changed. Would the future be as Bob Crandall envisioned 25 years ago in that AA would fly international, coast to coast and other select flights while AE took over all of the domestic flying? A combined seniority list for pilots and F/A ‘would allow the corporation to move people from one side to the other freely. As I’ve said most of this has popped up in the last few days as rumor.
This all started when AA went to their separate divisions and said “We’ve got a deal for you if you agree to one seniority list between AA & AE.â€￾ Everything else has been in the final stages ever since and pretty good sources will not deny any of what I’ve listed other than to say “Look for a big announcement s and changes by the end of the month.â€￾ Maybe I’m only passing on rumor that has kept Chicago tongue tied all weekend, but start looking at the way AA is moving. Look at the papers they have filed in Washington, look at their cash on hand, look at the new open skies agreement between the US and Japan, look at the fight between AA/One World and Delta over which way Japan Airlines will move. Could it all be a move in the game with AA and the unions to force the unions to reduce cost? Yes. But, we all know where money is concerned AMR will do what ever it needs. The one thing that won’t change is that the grievances and legal cases between the pilots at AMR and each division are on a fast track to resolution. I know that anyone in Chicago this past weekend has seen more screaming and yelling on the AA side than we’ve ever seen. They went ballistic when some of this news was leaked. “Fasten your seatbelts; it’s going to be a bumpy ride!â€￾

 

[Tex-Mech]

<_< ----- O.K., Old rumor! But I'm curious. What are the particulars on that Hanger? Does the City own it? Does Delta have a lease on it, and subleasing it to AA? Or are they out of the picture totally? ----- Anyone know? :huh:

Airport owns it. Delta dumped lease a few years ago in bankruptcy. AA has lease on it through the airport.

 

[jlynne]

I know that anyone in Chicago this past weekend has seen more screaming and yelling on the AA side than we’ve ever seen. They went ballistic when some of this news was leaked. “Fasten your seatbelts; it’s going to be a bumpy ride!â€￾

Hmmm...that's interesting. I'm on the AA side in ORD and I've heard no yelling and screaming. As a matter of fact, I've heard nothing about this.

 

[TIME FOR CHANGE]

The AA pilots have nothing to gain by merging seniority lists with AE.
NEVER HAPPEN
:unsure:

 

[Rogallo]

"Never say Never" in the Airline business!!!

 

[Buckky]

Hmmm...that's interesting. I'm on the AA side in ORD and I've heard no yelling and screaming. As a matter of fact, I've heard nothing about this.

Thats another reason this topic is "Rumor Control".

 

[MCI transplant]

<_< ----- I like my rumor better! -----As for yours, "Where's Al Capon when you need him!?" :unsure: