Sarah vs US history

[SparrowHawk]

There is a difference between things like 57 states or misspelling potato due to the pressure of the moment and perverting history for political gain. Ford was clumsy. I am sure all presidents not to mention the general public has had their moments as well. The fact that you seem to be incapable of discerning the difference between the two is a bit surprising but it does explain a few things.

But again you did side step the issue. Is it OK to add a windfall tax to the oil companies or not? Palin supported it during her 1.2 term as governor. Not so sure she will admit it now. She might very well pull a Romney and not talk about that slight 'tax increase' indiscretion. Sounds like another case of 'bad when your guy does it but good when mine does it' syndrome. AKA hypocrisy.

I will say this and I think this was the point for implementing the tax. Since before the Robber Baron's, mineral rights have been an interesting part of the law, one where philosophy hits reality square in the face. Take the widespread use in Appalachia of the Broad Form Deed as an end around to secure mineral rights from unsuspecting citizens. Talk about a scar upon the land and sadly you'll never see Rand Paul come out and lead the charge against the Broad Form Deed that is used by corporations to screw the common man. We see abuse in sweetheart deals granted by Feds as well over mineral rights on native American reservations. IIRC, Indians only own the land not the minerals under it in most cases.

So what really is at issue is who really owns the minerals. In the case of Alaska I believe the state owns the land and under most current legal doctrine that includes the minerals. Unless you're some poor dumb white guy in Appalachia or an Indian then you can be swindled out of your mineral rights by energy companies. All under the watchful eye of Local, State & Federal Governments. Now back to Alaska.

In this case the oil belongs to the state and they lease the land to the oil companies at a fair market rate. Since the people AND those they elected to serve THEIR best interests control in entirety the Assets, it is perfectly legal and desirable for the state to impose any rules, regulations and taxes they see fit as it is a corporation that gains the economic benefit from the sale of the mineral, in this case oil. The fact that it's tied to the selling price of oil is a stroke of genius on Palin's part. She squeezed every dollar of revenue out of the sale of a non renewable resource the citizens owned. The citizens elect Governors and the like to represent their best interests, Sarah Palin did just that, she maximized her citizens return on Investment. That was her job pure and simple.

That's why states like North Dakota and soon others have state budget surpluses, unemployment under 4%, a booming real estate market in Western ND. They leverage their resources to actually represent the people that elect them. Now that's hope & change we can all profit from.

 

[delldude]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/06/sarah-palin-claims-paul-revere-warned-the-british-that-they-werent-gonna-be-takin-away-our-arms.html

Anybody hear about the Brother who rode north?

 

[SparrowHawk]

This Just in,


Howard Dean: Palin Could Beat Obama in 2012
Saturday, 04 Jun 2011 05:09 PM

Howard Dean, the liberal former Democratic National Committee chairman, believes that former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin could defeat President Obama in 2012.

Dean says his fellow Democrats should beware of inside-the-Beltway conventional wisdom that Obama would crush Palin in a general-election contest next year, The Hill reported Saturday.

“I think she could win,” Dean told The Hill in an interview Friday. “She wouldn’t be my first choice if I were a Republican but I think she could win.”

Dean says the horrible economy seriously hurt Obama. He told The Hill it could have more of a political impact than many Washington strategists and pundits assume.

“Any time you have a contest — particularly when unemployment is as high as it is — nobody gets a walkover,” Dean said. “Whoever the Republicans nominate, including people like Sarah Palin, whom the inside-the-Beltway crowd dismisses — my view is if you get the nomination of a major party, you can win the presidency, I don’t care what people write about you inside the Beltway,” Dean said.

Dean warned it is dangerous for Democrats to dismiss Palin.

“Anybody who gets the nomination could win the presidency,” he said. “Do I think she’s going to get the nomination? No. But that process is so difficult and really tests candidates in ways that no other process can."


I'm not even a small fan of Howard Dean. However, like him or don't he raises an interesting point. As a colleague put it, "GOP is still searching for it's mojo." & I think he's correct.

 

[delldude]

Based on experience alone........looks like she ain't no worse than the savior of mankind....

Or maybe better suited?

 

[leprechaun]

Who needs to be schooled?

Palin Did Not Misspeak on Paul Revere​

Those quibbling with Governor Palin’s statements have their history incomplete. During Paul Revere’s ride he was stopped by British soldiers, which Revere recounts in a 1789 letter maintained by the Massachusetts Historical Society, in his original language:



Upon being stopped, did Revere, in essence, warn the British soldiers of the colonists’ plans? Yes. The strawmen built by the media seems to almost indicate that Revere rode through the streets warning the British soldiers. In actuality, simply put, Paul Revere told Regulars of the colonists’ plans during his attempt to warn the colonists of the Regulars approach (Revere actually said, “the Regulars are coming!”. The colonist still viewed themselves as British subjects at the time and would not have said, “the British are coming”.)

I'm sure that was what Sarah was refering to.............. 😛

 

[Dog Wonder]

The Democrats will say anything to get Palin in the race.

 

[dapoes]

I'm sure that was what Sarah was refering to.............. 😛

Can you prove that its not? She states a historically factual event and somehow you think you know better? Pathetic.

 

[leprechaun]

I know my hometown history babe, do you? What she said was wrong, and now your all trying to sell this fairytail.

 

[Ms Tree]

The Democrats will say anything to get Palin in the race.

Can you blame them? Politics is about winning. What better way than to have a weak opponent.

 

[dapoes]

I know my hometown history babe, do you? What she said was wrong, and now your all trying to sell this fairytail.

Prove it. What she said was factually correct and you libtards are having a fit over it! Doink, splat, next!

 

[leprechaun]

Todays quiz:

Paul Revere is best known for:

a. Revere actually warned colonists of the British military advances during his Midnight Ride. One if by land, and two if by sea.


b. He who warned, uh, the British that they weren’t gonna be takin’ away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells. Bells?


Sad case sweetcheeks of you and other limp minded folks trying to cover the fact that Sarah is a dolt.

Revere was briefly captured by the British riding to Lexington, but was released. He was captured, he wasn't trying to warn them, "Your not going to take our guns you naughty British" :wacko:

 

[dapoes]

Todays quiz:

Paul Revere is best known for:

a. Revere actually warned colonists of the British military advances during his Midnight Ride. One if by land, and two if by sea.


b. He who warned, uh, the British that they weren’t gonna be takin’ away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells. Bells?


Sad case sweetcheeks of you and other limp minded folks trying to cover the fact that Sarah is a dolt.

Revere was briefly captured by the British riding to Lexington, but was released. He was captured, he wasn't trying to warn them, "Your not going to take our guns you naughty British" :wacko:

According the history books written by Paul Revere himself as noted in my previous post (with factual links to sources) you are wrong. Who's the limp dolt now?

 

[leprechaun]

I will concede that you are more of an expert on the subject of limp, since you obviously have that effect on men, but do you seriously consider being captured and pistol whipped the same as going to warn the British?

You sound like a chump darling, even the Hawk bailed on this one.

 

[dapoes]

I will concede that you are more of an expert on the subject of limp, since you obviously have that effect on men, but do you seriously consider being captured and pistol whipped the same as going to warn the British?

You sound like a chump darling, even the Hawk bailed on this one.

His words, his facts. Conclude what you wish in that elf head of yours. The biggest chump is the one starring at your pathetic face In the mirror each morning.

 

[tech2101]

Todays quiz:

Paul Revere is best known for:

a. Revere actually warned colonists of the British military advances during his Midnight Ride. One if by land, and two if by sea.


b. He who warned, uh, the British that they weren’t gonna be takin’ away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells. Bells?


Sad case sweetcheeks of you and other limp minded folks trying to cover the fact that Sarah is a dolt.

Revere was briefly captured by the British riding to Lexington, but was released. He was captured, he wasn't trying to warn them, "Your not going to take our guns you naughty British" :wacko:

I watched her on Fox News Sunday and she admitted she messed up and was wrong In her statement about Paul Revere.

She misspoke. I will give her that.