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If they are going to try to eliminate the SCOPE restriction on RJs over 50 seats, why go only to 86? Why not, at least, ask for the authority to bring in the E190(?) which carries about 100 passengers? We need that size a/c for some of our markets. According to people from other airlines that have worked it, it is a really nice a/c both for crews and passengers.
 
Perhaps AA is really thinking of insourcing that flying? Stranger things have happened.
 
Arpey knows this is a non-starter. It was never meant as a serious proposal - just meant to give the appearance of negotiating a little.
 
If they are going to try to eliminate the SCOPE restriction on RJs over 50 seats, why go only to 86? Why not, at least, ask for the authority to bring in the E190(?) which carries about 100 passengers? We need that size a/c for some of our markets. According to people from other airlines that have worked it, it is a really nice a/c both for crews and passengers.

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If they are going to try to eliminate the SCOPE restriction on RJs over 50 seats, why go only to 86? Why not, at least, ask for the authority to bring in the E190(?) which carries about 100 passengers? We need that size a/c for some of our markets. According to people from other airlines that have worked it, it is a really nice a/c both for crews and passengers.

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jimntx, I just found this on the Embraer site.

E175........single class(y).........seat pitch 31 inches................"86" seats.

It would be a fair guess that AA would look to EMB, as opposed to Bombardier, since the "Cjets" have not been built yet, plus 95% of the Micro-Jets are EMB's(trade-in's..?)
 
The proposal is not to allow Eagle to fly up to 86 seats, it's an offer to allow up to 76 seats on airplanes certified for no more than 86 seats and MGTOW of no more than 89,000 pounds. Worded the way it is to keep the company from configuring a larger airplane with just 76 seats.
 
The proposal is not to allow Eagle to fly up to 86 seats, it's an offer to allow up to 76 seats on airplanes certified for no more than 86 seats and MGTOW of no more than 89,000 pounds. Worded the way it is to keep the company from configuring a larger airplane with just 76 seats.
UX is flying 66 seat E170s with F and E+ and similarly seated CRJ700s. On the whole, high fare FFers seem to have accepted these RJs instead of mainline aircraft -- indeed, some consider them superior to 737. Perhaps AA is considering the same approach with E170/175s?
 
It also opens up the door for the Q400 as a replacement for the shorter range flying and retiring the ATR72's...
 
I doubt APA will agree to it. AA has yet to offer any pay increase to any of the work groups on property. AA did offer APA an increase in productivity from 77 to 81 hours. They said NO!

Cash talks and the AA bull**** walks!
 
I doubt APA will agree to it. AA has yet to offer any pay increase to any of the work groups on property. AA did offer APA an increase in productivity from 77 to 81 hours. They said NO!

Cash talks and the AA bull**** walks!


Foreclosures at record high, fuel prices at record high, economy in a nose dive, 12,000 lay off expected at AA and other lay offs expected at other carriers and you were expecting a raise? Are you really that delusional? Really?
 
Foreclosures at record high, fuel prices at record high, economy in a nose dive, 12,000 lay off expected at AA and other lay offs expected at other carriers and you were expecting a raise? Are you really that delusional? Really?

No raise = NO VOTE!

If no work groups get a pay increase this time around...

We will send AA into BK! This way nobody gets their bone-us!
 
No raise = NO VOTE!

If no work groups get a pay increase this time around...

We will send AA into BK! This way nobody gets their bone-us!

That's not necessarily true - the execs will have to show the judge an offer from another company in order to be considered to receive a "bonus" from AMR to "retain" the exec.

At that point, it's entirely up to the judge - he/she can grant the bonus or just as easily tell the devil to "take the job, you're not getting a bonus to stay".

Personally, I don't see why anyone would care to keep the executives that had a hand in driving the company into the ground - it's just not good sense (I'd send them to McDonalds for a couple of years), but that's evidently not what business is all about, is it?

As I've said in other posts, yes, the corporate bankruptcy laws have changed, but I'm not interested in being involved in the test case. Nobody really knows for certain how business-unfriendly the changes made the law.
 
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