State proposes work requirement for food stamps

[SparrowHawk]

Ah yes. The old "everyone else does it defense". If that's the case then Paul is like everyone else. A corrupt lying cheating politician. Pretty sure you have made the claim that Paul was above all that. I wonder what else he has done that you don't know about.

 
Everybody does do it. If you take 30 seconds to read the article you'd know that Sorenson was being paid by Bachmann BEFORE the Paul Campaign swooped in and offered a better deal. So what you really have is basic free market capitalism at play.
 
Once again compare and contrast $73,000 versus TARP bailout, Versus the costs associated with the wars in the middle east costing at least 1 TRILLION.
 
The Ron Paul Campaign questionably spending 73K would have been the bargain of bargains had he ever got elected.
 
As things unfold it looks like Jesse Benton is up to his eyeballs in this. http://www.kentucky.com/2014/08/29/3402571/mitch-mcconnells-campaign-manager.html

 

[Dog Wonder]

 
The Ron Paul Campaign questionably spending 73K would have been the bargain of bargains had he ever got elected.
 

No amount of money illegally spent by the Paul campaign would have gotten him elected.

 

[Ms Tree]

I don't think the 'everyone else does it' defense works in a court of law.  I think that may be why Sorenson is in trouble.   Also, if you bothered to read the article and not cherry pick the info you like you might find that PAC donations to other candiddates are legal, giving a check to a candidates wife .... may be not so much.... ya think? 
 
This has nothign to do with TARP, wars in the ME or anyone elses actions.  This has to do with Paul and his campaing comiting an illegal act like all other politicans do which by your own words makes Paul as dirty as the rest of them. 

 

[SparrowHawk]

No amount of money illegally spent by the Paul campaign would have gotten him elected.

 
You know this how?

 

[Dog Wonder]

 
You know this how?

He could never have beaten Herman Cain.

 

[SparrowHawk]

I don't think the 'everyone else does it' defense works in a court of law.  I think that may be why Sorenson is in trouble.   Also, if you bothered to read the article and not cherry pick the info you like you might find that PAC donations to other candiddates are legal, giving a check to a candidates wife .... may be not so much.... ya think? 
 
This has nothign to do with TARP, wars in the ME or anyone elses actions.  This has to do with Paul and his campaing comiting an illegal act like all other politicans do which by your own words makes Paul as dirty as the rest of them. 

 
Like I said, I think Jesse Benton is up to his eyeballs in this and I doubt if Ron Paul ever knew about it until after the fact. Why? Because Jesse Benton just resigned as Mitch McConnell's Campaign Manager as a result of the Sorenson affair. This Benton fellow has a bit of a reputation in conservative circles as someone who at minimum bends the rules if not flaunt them.  This is from Wikipedia and the only reason I used it is for brevity as the information is elsewhere as Wikipedia is not the most reliable source.
 
"In August 2012, conservative activist and former Ron Paul aide Dennis Fusaro released emails and phone conversations that implicated Benton in being involved in an attempt to bribe Iowa state senator Kent Sorenson in order to secure Sorenson's support of Ron Paul's presidential campaign. Sorenson initially supported Michele Bachmann's candidacy, but switched his support to Paul, prompting Bachmann to accuse the Paul campaign of bribing Sorenson.Fusaro then released a phone conversation regarding Benton's employment with the McConnell campaign, in which Benton said he was "“sort of holding my nose for two years because what we're doing here is going to be a big benefit for Rand in 2016." The incident was referred to on Twitter as "nosegate."[24] In response to Fusaro's actions,"
 
Doug Wead showed up in the Paul campaign for a reason. Wead is an author and former adviser to Bush Sr. who apparently is above reproach.

 

[Ms Tree]

I keep forgetting that Paul has Jo clue what goes on in his organizations. People publish stuff in his paper which he knows nothing about. People write $25k checks and he knows nothing about it.

Hell, he would have been perfect president. A side from the not being electable part.

 

[SparrowHawk]

I keep forgetting that Paul has Jo clue what goes on in his organizations. People publish stuff in his paper which he knows nothing about. People write $25k checks and he knows nothing about it.

Hell, he would have been perfect president. A side from the not being electable part.

Be snarky all you like. However the fact remains is that after 30 plus years in the public lime light the very best people can come up with are TWO questionable incidents whhere he may or may not have known what was happening.
 
Compare that track record with ANY other Presidential hopeful dating back to Ron Paul's election to Congress. Also you can't have it both ways. Lois Lerner's actions by your standard for Dr. Paul means that one Barack Obama was directly involved in targeting certain groups.

 

[Ms Tree]

I seriously doubt Obama did not know about it.

So you acknowledge that Paul probably did know about these incidents?

 

[SparrowHawk]

I seriously doubt Obama did not know about it.

So you acknowledge that Paul probably did know about these incidents?

Personally, I do not think he knew. He seems to be one of those "Hands Off" type managers. On some level I don't think he even cared. WHY? Because based on his views there was no wrong doing in either case.
 
Sorenson/Benton bribe? Simple business quid pro quo.
Newsletter? Free Press, read it, draw your own conclusion.
 
He's not stupid, he knows how media works so he denies everything

 

[777 fixer]

And this compares equally with Bush & Obama collapsing the economy? Ordering drone strikes killing thousands of innocents?
 
Not to mention wars in Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan & Yemen. All costing TRILLIONS of tax dollars and the untold lives of the citizens of these countries, along with the lives of US Soldiers.
 
Not to mention this type of "Walking Around Money" that while illegal persists in virtually EVERY election in every state. Some are paid to lobbyists post election. It's called crony capitalism.
 
Also, some of the bribes in this case go directly to the campaign people, namely Doug Weed & Jesse Benton who did not see eye to eye on certain things. If you look at the history of those two you'll find some very interesting affiliations.

 
Quick question.  Did Jesus pay his disciples to join him?

 

[Dog Wonder]

He gave them fish.

 

[SparrowHawk]

He gave them fish.

 
 
Sounds like a bribe to me! Crucify Him!
 
Oh wait they did and it turns out one of his disciples did the dirty work for money. Sounds kind of familiar doesn't it?

 

[Ms Tree]

Personally, I do not think he knew. He seems to be one of those "Hands Off" type managers. On some level I don't think he even cared. WHY? Because based on his views there was no wrong doing in either case.
 
Sorenson/Benton bribe? Simple business quid pro quo.
Newsletter? Free Press, read it, draw your own conclusion.
 
He's not stupid, he knows how media works so he denies everything

Sure. I want a president who does things because he thinks it's OK. Do you even read the stuff you post? This is the same crap you are harping on Obama about. Violating the law because you think you can get away with it. Horse chit.

I have drawn my own conclusions. Paul is as dirty as the rest of them.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Sure. I want a president who does things because he thinks it's OK. Do you even read the stuff you post? This is the same crap you are harping on Obama about. Violating the law because you think you can get away with it. Horse chit.

I have drawn my own conclusions. Paul is as dirty as the rest of them.

Good then don't vote for him or his kid. To compare a 73000 bribe (alleged) to the Crony Capitalist Soylyndra deal for one glaring example that Obama was in up to his eyeballs in is really just silly. 
 
With Paul it's 2 incidents in 30 years versus what seems like 2 incidents every 30 days Obama