Strike When Ready!

[pi1984]

😱 As a former Us Res agt who took the EO, I am very surprised at this topic. I guess USWest wasn't paying attention for the last couple of years. No disrespect intended but we've been down this very long and tumultuous road for years now. So much so, that over half of us in INT got out and gave up our hard earned seniority to get away from the turmoil our working lives had become.

The bottom line is as long as the flying public is willing to use the internet or wait on hold for an eternity, and be given incorrect or incomplete information, the CEO's will continue to devalue our services. If customer service is not a requirement, then why pay for it?

I hate the negativity of my post, but I feel its the sad truth.

I wish everyone the best and I honestly hope Doug Parker will be the CEO that US East has been praying for.

 

[Bear96]

None of you seem to understand you just can't strike, the government has to approve of it and the process can take years to reach that point.

Duhhh, I think most everyone here understood that point right away. (Except maybe the OP.) We are just having an informal "conversation" to exchange ideas without getting hung up on technicalities or having a collective bargaining agreement stifle our free thought and expression. Try it sometime.

Pineybob thanks for your response. You make good points.

 

[700UW]

No many of them didn't otherwise they would not say strike now or when the opportunity makes it better timing.

And it is not technicalities, it is a federal law. You can discuss it as much as you want, but it is not gonna happen as federal law prohibits it.

 

[700UW]

Dues grubbing environment?

Gee I thought you said you were not going to comment on unions that way again?

Don't you have an office to break into and steal from?

The RLA prevents labor from wildcat strikes and first of all employees don't send unions resignation letters, those get sent to the company. But you never let a law stop you from doing illegal activity.

And our founding fathers believed in unions as most of them belonged to Guilds which were early unions.

But the founding fathers did not pass laws restricting what labor can and cannot do as politicians after them have.

Plain and simple you can't wildcat strike or even deliberately cause a slowdown, go ask the AA pilots and UAL mechanics about injunctions and fines levied against them for those so actions.

And look around you, the governed have no say, big business and special interests control the government, not people.

 

[700UW]

The RLA was passed in 1926, FDR was not President, Calvin Coolidge was.

They dont go after the employees they go after the union leadership.

A resignation letter on file with the union unless recieved by the company means nothing, you don't resign from a company by sending the union a letter, you send it to the company.

 

[Res]

Even US res on the East Coast is tired or should I say exhausted with the outsourced offices errors and misinformation....it is making us all look bad - passengers are also worn out....every call back - or should I say blind transfer - that we get from an outsourced offices requires at least 3-5 minutes of listening to the passengers bad experience always irrate and telling us they will never fly us again...then we apologize....and try and move on....It's is getting overbearing...we are hoping a solution is forthcoming....we realize it's gonna take a little time - but in the meantime $$$ are bring lost as well as future paying passengers. We also hope that the HP res employees are brought up to an equal payscale, it's only fair - although I don't think a strike is the solution -- I'm willing to give Mr Parker a little time - this merger had several issues that needed to be addressed -- it's still gonna take some time.

 

[Bear96]

The RLA prevents labor from wildcat strikes ...

No.

As PineyBob is trying to point out, legislation doesn't necessarily preclude something from happening. It merely makes the action illegal, or at least (in labor law) "unprotected." If a statute actually "prevented" something from happening, we could solve airplane crashed due to pilot error by simply making pilot error illegal, right? Problem solved. Does a 55 MPH speed limit on a four-lane divided highway prevent people from driving over 55?

We understand it would be "illegal."

 

[Headhunter]

Dear US West Res,
Do you have a call center analyst? Someone who measures your average call time, # of abandoned calls, and your average fare sold?
If you can show the Newco management that your metrics are equal to, or better than, US East Res and the outsourced call centers... then you have a strong case to be given a bigger share of the pie; that you are bringing in more money than you cost.
Please use good, verifiable numbers instead of emotions and other fuzzy stuff that is hard to measure and especially NOT threats of striking.
Talk to management in its own terms: $.
Headhunter

 

[PhxMama]

Dear US West Res,
Do you have a call center analyst? Someone who measures your average call time, # of abandoned calls, and your average fare sold?
If you can show the Newco management that your metrics are equal to, or better than, US East Res and the outsourced call centers... then you have a strong case to be given a bigger share of the pie; that you are bringing in more money than you cost.
Please use good, verifiable numbers instead of emotions and other fuzzy stuff that is hard to measure and especially NOT threats of striking.
Talk to management in its own terms: $.
Headhunter

Dear US East Res, Im sure we have a call center analyst but who they are is unkown, turnover in all depts is extremely high. We do have stats and they measure everything. Starting pay is 7.65 and until teamsters or the combined alliance it will stay this way. No one cares about turnover. Rumor has it the state or fed gov reinburse the company for all training costs. Plus . Its covered under some type of job training program. I personally sat in a mtg with Doug and he promised more money for Rez. That was right after the merger was announced. We have extremely high call volume I mean hundreds of calls on hold all day. Our training for US was minimal and new policies are changed every other day. We are frustrated with the lack of info we receive and Rez management changes frequently. No one cares in corp about Rez. We are now expected to kow our jobs plus now all US domestic without any real training, no access to most of the info we need and still expected to adhere to talk standards etc. If you complain all you here is if you dont like it you can quit. Or talk to your union about pay you voted them in. We need a contract . Anyone with updates on this ?

 

[john john]

Could the Change of Control grievance be considered a MAJOR DISPUTE?

 

[john john]

At what point and time does a rate of pay become so low that you are willing to sacrifice your job? US/EAST saw this in our negotiations. We had to show management/consultants/lawyers this concept The CWA/IBT alliance will address this. Show solidarity! There will be a lot of fear/uncertainty/doubt by management/consultants/lawyers. US/EAST has seen all this before with the company trying to decertify the union 3 times stonewalling negotiations for years. CWA/IBT have a lot of experience at this and that is why the company pays big bucks for consultants/lawyers. CWA has to hire good/experienced lawyers and staff to come to terms with the company. It is the way it is and some things will never change. PineyBob thanks for being a cheerleader. Agents are here for you. US Agents in a labor dispute is a fairly new concept but we need to get the company to negotiate in “good faithâ€￾. Management and consultants/lawyers test the unions every day

CWA Board Clears the Way for Possible Strike By US Airways Passenger Service Agents
11/30/2004
WASHINGTON, D.C. - The Communications Workers of America's national executive board voted unanimously to authorize strike action by 6,000 passenger service agents against US Airways, clearing the way for CWA's president to set a strike date.
The passenger agents earlier this month voted by 86 percent to authorize a strike against the airline in a membership referendum.
Meanwhile, CWA negotiators are continuing to meet this week with US Airways management in an attempt to reach a new labor settlement.
The airline has demanded devastating pay and benefit concessions from the agents and has petitioned the bankruptcy judge to throw out their union contract.
Abrogation of the contract would allow the agents to strike or engage in other job actions.
For More Information contact:
Jeff Miller,
CWA Communications,
(202) 434-1168

 

[john john]

[quote name='diogenes' date='Oct 30 2005, 11:29 AM' post='316796

Third, NOW is the time, and this is why.

There are two different contracts representing EACH major work group at US.
[/quote]
HP AGENT DO NOT HAVE A CONTRACT! THIS IS THE TIME

 

[barbeetantrums]

For years CSRs and res have passed up on the oppurtunity for union representation. The company was going to do right by everybody... Doug Parker has our back... We want award pay... Now the chickens have come home to roost. There has been a merger and their new colleagues with union representation make more money than them. You want to make the same amount. You ain't gonna get it! BOO HOO!!! You had the chance for representation all these years and you passed it up. You made your bed, now sleep in it! :rant:

CWA should use this to staple you to the bottom of their list:

 

[kao]

For years CSRs and res have passed up on the oppurtunity for union representation. The company was going to do right by everybody... Doug Parker has our back... We want award pay... Now the chickens have come home to roost. There has been a merger and their new colleagues with union representation make more money than them. You want to make the same amount. You ain't gonna get it! BOO HOO!!! You had the chance for representation all these years and you passed it up. You made your bed, now sleep in it! :rant:

CWA should use this to staple you to the bottom of their list:

Thats a really good attitude....

 

[700UW]

A true trade unionist would never want to staple a merged group of employees to the bottom of the seniority list.