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Those that suggest putting the E170 at DAL forget that the airplane would be subject to the Wright Amendment restrictions. Anything over 55 seats can fly only in Texas, and to the 5 states contiguous to Texas, plus Mississippi, Alabama, Kansas, and now Missouri.

Though, you might pick up some business in Mississippi, Alabama, and Kansas since SWA never actually provided those states with any non-stop service from DAL.
 
You fail to understand that it's not just about the fuel hedges. They have one of the lowest non-fuel unit costs in the industry.....

sfb,

It keeps being pointed out, but usually ignored, that WN has an advantage if you eliminate fuel from the picture entirely (or at least till US can somehow get fuel significantly cheaper than WN, but don't hold your breath for that).

3Q05 CASM excluding fuel:

WN 6.10 cents
HP 6.75 cents (not bad for a network carrier with a mixed fleet)
US (East) 8.04 cents

Until Parker & company can wring 1.5 to 2 cents per ASM from the East operation, it won't matter if WN's hedges run out or not - we'll still be unable to compete on price.

Lest anyone thinks "only 1.5 or 2 cents", that amounts to $200 - $265 million per quarter, or $800 million to over 1 billion per year. Definitely more than that $600 million that "synergies" are expected to produce.

Jim
 
Good info Jim. I can remember at a town hall past where slides were shown with legacy carriers were over 11.0 CASM. Don't you think we just have to be somewhere near SWA...I don't know what the figure would be, but we have a little different product than SWA, such as FC, more convienent connections, overseas flights, etc. I'm willing to be educated.
 
sfb,

It keeps being pointed out, but usually ignored, that WN has an advantage if you eliminate fuel from the picture entirely (or at least till US can somehow get fuel significantly cheaper than WN, but don't hold your breath for that).

3Q05 CASM excluding fuel:

WN 6.10 cents
HP 6.75 cents (not bad for a network carrier with a mixed fleet)
US (East) 8.04 cents

Until Parker & company can wring 1.5 to 2 cents per ASM from the East operation, it won't matter if WN's hedges run out or not - we'll still be unable to compete on price.

Lest anyone thinks "only 1.5 or 2 cents", that amounts to $200 - $265 million per quarter, or $800 million to over 1 billion per year. Definitely more than that $600 million that "synergies" are expected to produce.

Jim

Those 2 cents will have to be found some place other than ATO employees. We average $10 an hour less than LUV. We have little or no retirement. At some point the organization just collapses into anarchy. I think we are getting close.
 
Don't you think we just have to be somewhere near SWA...I don't know what the figure would be, but we have a little different product than SWA, such as FC, more convienent connections, overseas flights, etc.

Good point, Eric. Yes, we probably don't have to match WN's CASM to be profitable (although there's B6 with an ex-fuel CASM of under 5 cents). The items you mentioned potentially produce a higher average yield, but at a price - higher CASM. For example, Aviation Week just had Eclat consulting run the numbers and the average legacy carrier incurred $7-$9 higher cost per passenger in just handling costs - those convenient connections cost money. And guess who had the highest percentage of connecting traffic - East (the data was from before the merger).

One other factor to consider is Express - on the West side, that CASM was almost 12 cents and on the East almost 16 cents. That's a cost that WN doesn't have, with the tradeoff being service to smaller cities that WN will probably never serve directly, resulting in higher yields from those cities (not that ATL, IAH, DFW, etc are smaller cities). How much higher is probably determined by the driving distance to the nearest WN, B6, etc, service as much as anything else.

Another oft forgotten factor is average stage length - the furthur the planes fly the lower the CASM. East's is about 33% higher than WN while West's is about 66% higher. If you adjust the ex-fuel CASM for stage length, the difference between us and WN increases somewhere around 1 cent. Notably, WN increased their average stage length more than 6% year over year in 3Q05 while both East and West (mainline) decreased.

In short, West has been able to compete fairly well with WN thanks primarily to it's low employee costs, high average stage length, and relative small Express operation (using predominitely larger RJ's). East has the low employee costs, but doesn't have West's high stage length and certainly doesn't have their relatively small Express operation (plus using a lot of small RJ's).

Doug has his work cut out for him, that's for sure. It's probably why Jerry Glass is going to head negotiations with ALPA for a combined contract and the company has already said that the result can not increase the pilot costs.

Jim
 
I don't think that any work group will have a cost increase.

I read on Compass/About US that the FA's "fence" agreement was turned down because "the fence was tied to some contractual pay increases, which management did reject. The Transition Agreement is set up to govern the period until we get a combined contract. It is not the time to negotiate economic contract issues, and management has been consistent on this stance from the beginning. There will a time for those talks later."

So that looks like that's the way it's going to be. :huh:
 
Don't you think we just have to be somewhere near SWA...I don't know what the figure would be, but we have a little different product than SWA, such as FC, more convienent connections, overseas flights, etc. I'm willing to be educated.

To add to what Jim said, part of what both East and West need to do is to get out of the market for low-yield connecting traffic. What they need to do is emphasize hub/focus city O&D along with higher-yield connecting traffic that either prefers the US product or is travelling in markets with limited LCC penetration. It's important, however, that the connecting markets remain reasonably priced, lest your passengers choose to drive to the nearest city with LCC competition instead.

It is crazy that US Airways matches fares with Southwest on certain connecting routes -- BUF-MCO, ISP-PBI, or IAH-BWI, for example -- when Southwest is flying non-stop in these markets. There is simply no way that US will make a profit by charging $59 from BUF to MCO or $49 from ISP to PBI while sending those passengers through the hubs. It does make sense to match the fares at which you can break even or make a profit.

At the same time, it's important to get rid of what some call the "Blo-Fares" -- the "oh-my-God" pricing which drove people to your competitors to begin with. PHL-BUF shouldn't be more expensive than PHL-LAX -- but the walk-up fare to BUF is nearly twice that to LAX.

Some of the company's other moves -- like going all-RJ to ATL or shifting to predominantly RJ service at IAH and DFW -- are just incomprehensible to me. Aside from the EMB-170's, the Express product isn't competitive with the mainline aircraft operated by the other airlines, leading to lower yields with higher-cost aircraft.

One other factor to consider is Express - on the West side, that CASM was almost 12 cents and on the East almost 16 cents. That's a cost that WN doesn't have, with the tradeoff being service to smaller cities that WN will probably never serve directly, resulting in higher yields from those cities (not that ATL, IAH, DFW, etc are smaller cities).

That has been one of my biggest concerns about the merged airline -- the fact that it will have 350 high-cost regional aircraft flying in its colors. How do you remain competitive against FL and B6 in a market like ROC when probably 75% of your seats (or more) are on Express? What if WN enters the market? Most East Coast markets of 250,000 to 500,000 people or above are vulnerable to LCC entry. I fear that the large regional fleet will ultimately be a liability as WN, B6, and FL continue to expand in the East. It is helpful for collecting passengers from smaller markets, but the use of regional jets in medium and large markets doesn't strike me as being sustainable long-term.

I feel that the company's international strategy has been good, since yields are generally higher, assuming the loads have been there as well.

My feeling is that US Airways as a whole will not survive if it continues business as usual in the East. Southwest getting more gates at Philly just accelerates the issue, given that US will have fewer and fewer places to keep fares high -- under the old model.
 
Some of the company's other moves -- like going all-RJ to ATL or shifting to predominantly RJ service at IAH and DFW -- are just incomprehensible to me. Aside from the EMB-170's, the Express product isn't competitive with the mainline aircraft operated by the other airlines, leading to lower yields with higher-cost aircraft.
That has been one of my biggest concerns about the merged airline -- the fact that it will have 350 high-cost regional aircraft flying in its colors. How do you remain competitive against FL and B6 in a market like ROC when probably 75% of your seats (or more) are on Express? What if WN enters the market? Most East Coast markets of 250,000 to 500,000 people or above are vulnerable to LCC entry. I fear that the large regional fleet will ultimately be a liability as WN, B6, and FL continue to expand in the East. It is helpful for collecting passengers from smaller markets, but the use of regional jets in medium and large markets doesn't strike me as being sustainable long-term.

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Is there any chance that LCC can end its relations with one of its RJ providers. Does the Arbitrator's decision give any room to reject Wexford entirely? Do LCC and Wexford hate each other yet?
 
The express operation is the down fall of the current US Airways This is managements plan express as much as possible to get rid of the "Top Of Scale fairyâ€￾
 
:lol: You MUST be kidding! I've got better things to do with MY time than listen/watch some swa propaganda video.
You're right. Your toenails do need cleaned and trimmed! And can you get rid of that belly-button lint while you're at it? 😀


The link to Jackie's video was posted so those who truly want to understand what makes SWA tick could hear it from those who have studied it in depth.

Call it "kool aid" if you want. The truth is, however, that SWA's people live the "whatever it takes" mantra day in and day out. It works, it's profitable, and it's fun. 😀
 

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