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Kev3188 said:
I'll just leave this here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUdHIatS36A
Why isn't the video of Brown strong arm robbing a convenience store moments before his dirt nap relevant? It clearly shows his state of mind and intimidating and violet inclination. It also shows that Officer Wilson clearly had cause to arrest Brown. Or does the video counter the narrative? How is the video any more irrelevant than the televised interview of Johnson telling the world a lie?
 
Knotbuyinit said:
Question. Was officer Wilson making an "unlawful" arrest? 
i dont know he shot Brown 6 times before he could make an arrest
 
Knotbuyinit said:
Why isn't the video of Brown strong arm robbing a convenience store moments before his dirt nap relevant? It clearly shows his state of mind and intimidating and violet inclination. It also shows that Officer Wilson clearly had cause to arrest Brown. Or does the video counter the narrative? How is the video any more irrelevant than the televised interview of Johnson telling the world a lie?
the police chief in Ferguson said that Wilson DID NOT know of the alleged robbery so he didnt have reason nor did he have cause
 
PHXConx said:
So the "facts" you spent the day preaching to us about yesterday turns out to be a lie. That's what happens when you get your news updates from a comedy show.
 
Now what you are saying is that were it not for the fact that Brown had just committed a felony strong armed robbery of a convenience store Officer Wilson would have been looking for him anyway? Oh my, you are thick. Do you really think Brown didn't know the police would be looking for him? From reports that I have read, Brown was about to attend a Technical school to further what little education he already had. I assume Brown knew the consequences of committing a felony and if caught would spend the next decade in prison. Do you really want people like Brown to roam your community unabated?  
 
PHXConx said:
 
You may find Chief Ed Delmore's opinion interesting:
 
 
Captain Johnson, your words during the day on Friday helped to fuel the anger that was still churning just below the surface. St. Louis County Police were told to remain uninvolved and that night the rioting and looting began again. For much too long it went on mostly unchecked. Retired St. Louis County Police Chief Tim Fitch tweeted that your “hug-a-looter” policy had failed.
 
Boy did it.
 
And your words contributed to what happened Friday night and on into the wee hours of Saturday. According to the St. Louis Post Dispatch, you said the following regarding the release of the video: “There was no need to release it,” Johnson said calling the reported theft and the killing entirely different events.
 
Well Captain, this veteran police officer feels the need to respond. What you said is, in common police vernacular—bullshit. The fact that Brown knew he had just committed a robbery before he was stopped by Officer Wilson speaks to Brown’s mindset. And Captain, the mindset of a person being stopped by a police officer means everything, and you know it.
 
Let’s consider a few examples:
On February 15, 1978 Pensacola Police Officer David Lee conducted a vehicle check. He didn’t know what the sole occupant of the vehicle had recently done, but the occupant did. Who was he? Serial killer Ted Bundy. Bundy attempted to disarm Lee. Lee was able to retain his firearm and eventually took Bundy into custody.
 
On April 19, 1995 Oklahoma State Trooper Charlie Hangar stopped a vehicle for minor traffic violations. He didn’t know that 90 minutes earlier the traffic violator, Timothy McVeigh, killed 168 people with a truck bomb at the Murrah Federal Building. But McVeigh sure knew it, didn’t he? Fortunately, given his training and experience Hangar was able to take McVeigh into custody for carrying a concealed firearm. It was days later before it was determined that McVeigh was responsible for the bombing.
 
On May 31, 2003 then-rookie North Carolina police officer, Jeff Postell, arrested a man digging in a trash bin on a grocery store parking lot—an infraction that would rise to about the level of jaywalking. Postell didn’t know that he had just captured Eric Rudolph, the man whom years earlier had killed and injured numerous people with bombs and was on the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted list.
 
So now, let’s consider Ferguson Officer Darren Wilson’s stop of Michael Brown. Apparently Wilson didn’t know that Brown had just committed a strong-arm robbery. But Brown did! And that Captain, is huge.
http://www.lawofficer.com/article/lifeline-training/open-letter-captain-ronald-s-j
 
As civilians with no experience in law enforcement, arm chair quarterbacking of life and death events and split second decisions among officers is best left to the professionals.
 
This bullshit of the liberal MSM looking into Wilson's life history to attempt to assassinate his character only shows the man is human like the rest of us, what is important is it appears he was able to rise above any life issues and perform his job to the best of his ability.
 
Brown phucked up.....Wilson did his job.
 
Maybe Police officers should wait until this happens, before pulling their weapon and defending themselves.
Notice nothing about "Black man attacks White cop".
 
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojvHyQCHhVc[youtube]
 
PHXConx said:
the police chief in Ferguson said that Wilson DID NOT know of the alleged robbery so he didnt have reason nor did he have cause
He had good reason to shoot after he had been beat senseless, probably could not see out of his damaged eye socket. He had the right to shoot until the threat is eliminated. And it was.

No jury will convict-unless it's the idiots from the OJ jury with an agenda.

Michael and his friend turn around. And Michael taunts him And then all the sudden he just started bumrushing him. He just started coming at him full speed. And, so he just started shooting. And, he just kept coming. And, so he really thinks he was on somethingThe final shot was in the forehead, and then he fell about two or three feet in front of the officer, Josie told Loesch.
On Monday, CNN confirmed on air that Josies account lines up with what Wilson has told authorities.
- See more at: http://rare.us/story/12-people-now-confirming-darren-wilsons-side-of-the-story/#sthash.bXSlFGER.dpuf
 
If he was beaten badly, why not release the photos and medical report?

Why have no nurses or staff from the hospital come forward?

If I was his attorney, or union,they would be all over the internet. Why aren't they?
 
Everyone here witnessed the shooting in person? NO? hmmm, then you don't know a single thing in regard to what happened.
 
There is a history of targeting minorities of every flavor by the Police and that is well documented in a variety of ways.
 
A glaring example of this would be the outright murder of 3 civil rights workers by police in Philadelphia, MS. Tho black and one Jewish IIRC.
 
Not to mention the Rodney King beat down. Not to mention the Day to Day assaults on our civil liberties. 
 
People in this country have rights as this video shows.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiCVrYzSaxg
 
Badges Do NOT Grant Extra Rights www.copblock.org
 
Glenn Quagmire said:
If he was beaten badly, why not release the photos and medical report?
Why have no nurses or staff from the hospital come forward?
If I was his attorney, or union,they would be all over the internet. Why aren't they?
The Grand Jury has the right to see his medical records, not Glenn Quagmire. I'll bet this does not even go to trial after reading the Missouri Code.

563.046. Law enforcement officers use of force in making an arrest.
1. A law enforcement officer need not retreat or desist from efforts to effect the arrest, or from efforts to prevent the escape from custody, of a person he reasonably believes to have committed an offense because of resistance or threatened resistance of the arrestee. In addition to the use of physical force authorized under other sections of this chapter, he is, subject to the provisions of subsections 2 and 3, justified in the use of such physical force as he reasonably believes is immediately necessary to effect the arrest or to prevent the escape from custody.
2. The use of any physical force in making an arrest is not justified under this section unless the arrest is lawful or the law enforcement officer reasonably believes the arrest is lawful.
3. A law enforcement officer in effecting an arrest or in preventing an escape from custody is justified in using deadly force only
(1) When such is authorized under other sections of this chapter; or
(2) When he reasonably believes that such use of deadly force is immediately necessary to effect the arrest and also reasonably believes that the person to be arrested
(a) Has committed or attempted to commit a felony; or
(b Is attempting to escape by use of a deadly weapon; or
(c) May otherwise endanger life or inflict serious physical injury unless arrested without delay.
4. The defendant shall have the burden of injecting the issue of justification under this section.

Legal analysis
A plain reading of this 563.046(3)(2)(a) could reasonably lead to the conclusion that Wilson was authorized to use deadly force to stop Browns flight, even if Brown presented no imminent threat of death or grave bodily harm, if Wilson merely had a reasonable belief that Brown was fleeing to avoid apprehension for a recently completed felony robbery
 
CactusPilot1 said:
The Grand Jury has the right to see his medical records, not Glenn Quagmire. I'll bet this does not even go to trial after reading the Missouri Code.

563.046. Law enforcement officers use of force in making an arrest.
1. A law enforcement officer need not retreat or desist from efforts to effect the arrest, or from efforts to prevent the escape from custody, of a person he reasonably believes to have committed an offense because of resistance or threatened resistance of the arrestee. In addition to the use of physical force authorized under other sections of this chapter, he is, subject to the provisions of subsections 2 and 3, justified in the use of such physical force as he reasonably believes is immediately necessary to effect the arrest or to prevent the escape from custody.
2. The use of any physical force in making an arrest is not justified under this section unless the arrest is lawful or the law enforcement officer reasonably believes the arrest is lawful.
3. A law enforcement officer in effecting an arrest or in preventing an escape from custody is justified in using deadly force only
(1) When such is authorized under other sections of this chapter; or
(2) When he reasonably believes that such use of deadly force is immediately necessary to effect the arrest and also reasonably believes that the person to be arrested
(a) Has committed or attempted to commit a felony; or
(b Is attempting to escape by use of a deadly weapon; or
(c) May otherwise endanger life or inflict serious physical injury unless arrested without delay.
4. The defendant shall have the burden of injecting the issue of justification under this section.

Legal analysis
A plain reading of this 563.046(3)(2)(a) could reasonably lead to the conclusion that Wilson was authorized to use deadly force to stop Browns flight, even if Brown presented no imminent threat of death or grave bodily harm, if Wilson merely had a reasonable belief that Brown was fleeing to avoid apprehension for a recently completed felony robbery
A badge does NOT grant extra rights.
 
SparrowHawk said:
A badge does NOT grant extra rights.
I don't recommend you using the line if you get pulled over. He has the right to enforce the law and use DEADLY FORCE to protect himself.
 
Glenn Quagmire said:
If he was beaten badly, why not release the photos and medical report?

Why have no nurses or staff from the hospital come forward?

If I was his attorney, or union,they would be all over the internet. Why aren't they?
 
 
HIPPA
 
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