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Rumor coming out of the drunkfest/IEC meeting taking place at the Gallord Texan here in DFW is that the twu is mailing out Anti-AMP propoganda to our homes soon, they even claim to have got some pilot to go on record to say now is not the time to leave the TWU, if i was in his shoes I would be thinking please take another twu concession so we can get more.

Now remember this is just a rumor from a bunch of drunks so it may not be true we will have to wait and see, on that noted I wonder if any of you twu suck boys would care to take a stab at the amount of members dues being wasted over at the Gallord as one would expect there is a open bar and god only knows what their paying for all that food but nothings to good for little jim and the boys.

You boys have a goodtime its on us!!!!!!!

Pitbull
 
Rumor coming out of the drunkfest/IEC meeting taking place at the Gallord Texan here in DFW is that the twu is mailing out Anti-AMP propoganda to our homes soon, they even claim to have got some pilot to go on record to say now is not the time to leave the TWU, if i was in his shoes I would be thinking please take another twu concession so we can get more.

Now remember this is just a rumor from a bunch of drunks so it may not be true we will have to wait and see, on that noted I wonder if any of you twu suck boys would care to take a stab at the amount of members dues being wasted over at the Gallord as one would expect there is a open bar and god only knows what their paying for all that food but nothings to good for little jim and the boys.

You boys have a goodtime its on us!!!!!!!

Pitbull

Will they include another flyer explaining why it would be better to stay with a company union?
Will they explain how "Strength in numbers" has worked so well for us?
Will they explain why they have given the company everything they ever wanted without a fight for decades?
Will they explain why they appoint and pay International officers executive-level compensation and exempt themselves from the pain all the members have experienced and continue to suffer through?
 
The TWU spends money surveying the overhaul bases but not the line stations. Now supposedly they spend money sending out mailers to all members. Line and overhaul. TWU is right about one thing. Strength in numbers. Overhaul vs line. The strength is in the numbers. for overhaul. If the mail outs are for real then the threat is real. AMP must have a large number of signed cards and a representational election is coming soon.
 
Rumor only, No truth to any of this.

In Solidarity,
CIO
 
Rumor only, No truth to any of this.

In Solidarity,
CIO


cio,

Doesn't really matter if the twu sends out a mailer or not. Even if they did what would they write on it? Would they defend the twu constitution? Heck, you can't even do that and you volunteered to defend it. (Still waiting for you to explain why the membership doesn't vote for int. officers.)

The twu is concerned about the AMP drive. This drive will unseat the twu from doing the company's bidding.

"In Solidarity"? If it is your type of solidarity from behind an alias no thanks.

GO AMP!
 
with the contract vote down 2 to1 I would have thought AMP would file for a election 2 weeks ago


Maybe the AMP movement is not that strong.
 
with the contract vote down 2 to1 I would have thought AMP would file for a election 2 weeks ago


Maybe the AMP movement is not that strong.


Maybe the twu constitution allows for the election of international officers by the full membership.
 
I am starting to think that maybe this AMP drive lives only here on this forum. No one I work with has mentioned seeing any cards. I think it's just an empty threat to try to put the fear of God into TWU leadership. But I'm not sure what anyone hopes to acheive, after all TWU has put the strike threaet out there already.
 
The "strike threat"? Jim Little took that off the table shortly after the votes were tallied on the T/A.
 
The AMP drive is alive and well in Tulsa. Where do you work we will get cards to your station. If you want a change for the better go to the website you will like what you see. The drive is well on its way. There is a better way. Go AMP
 
I am starting to think that maybe this AMP drive lives only here on this forum. No one I work with has mentioned seeing any cards. I think it's just an empty threat to try to put the fear of God into TWU leadership. But I'm not sure what anyone hopes to acheive, after all TWU has put the strike threaet out there already.

The TWU will not strike...period.
They know better...
 
The TWU will not strike...period.
They know better...

Thats not what some of my contacts in Miami told me. Word is that Woodward was pushing for a YES vote on the failed T/A/. He was scaring the guys into a strike if they voted NO. Well where is the strike that Woodward and others predicted by voting NO?
 
Here is a mail out the twu may use free of charge. They most certainly will not use it because the truth burns.


CHANGE FROM WITHIN

Several years ago the twu was threatened by another union looking to represent the AMT craft and class at American Airlines. Through lies and fear tactics the twu managed to escape the inevitable. The twu pretended to behave like a union that doesn't put the appointed international officers first but rather the membership. The twu even carted out a fancy slogan, (their strong suit), crying to the misrepresented members "Change from within.". This slogan and mantra was intended to hoodwink the membership into believing that the twu could change and listen to the membership. But alas this was nothing more than an attempt to pacify dues paying members. It was nothing short of another twu lie.

How could this slogan be a lie? The answer is rather simple. Back when the twu rolled out with great fanfare that the membership should get involved with the twu and "Change from within." the twu was indicating that the membership should step up to the plate and become more active and vocal in the union because as the twu wanted you to think the membership is the union. Oh, how foolhardy are the accountable. Spring forward to today with a threat of a democratic, craft union wanting to allow the AMT craft and class at American Airlines to truly control their own union and the twu says the membership isn't capable of doing this. Huh? Didn't they just claim the opposite when there was no threat to their style of unionism? The twu is simply saying that the membership is too stupid to create a new union because there isn't anyone smart enough to do what is needed. I tell you what, I can see an out of touch management degrade and disrespect the work force but an organization I pay hard earned money for union dues to protect my profession to insult me and degrade my ability to do what is necessary to better our pay and benefits is flat out WRONG and UNACCEPTABLE!

Why is it when it benefits the twu slogans come cheap. Slogans that are empty. But when the membership does try to "change from within" by creating a craft, democratic union where all officers are elected by the membership and held accountable by the membership the membership all of a sudden turns into incapable dolts? Is it because change is possible with the twu but only as long as the change doesn't include changing the international structure? Is it because the twu realy only cares about international officers who are NOT elected by the membership and who DO NOT take cuts in pay and benefits when the membership does but rather only receives pay raises?

"Change from within" was something two union Brothers attempted in New York. Bob Owens and Chuck Schalk, both AMTs in JFK, were REMOVED from office by the twu international because Brothers Owens' and Schalk's idea of "change from within" benefited the membership not the international. So is "change from within" possible from the very people who started this idea? Or are they lying to the membership?

"Change from within" is being accomplished right now at AA by AMTs who are doing what the twu said we should do years ago! The Association of Maintenance Professionals, AMP, is everything the twu fears... democracy and accountability from the top down. With AMP the membership controls the constitution as well as the contracts. With AMP union officials from the top down are ELECTED by the full membership. The National Officers have term limits which brings accountability because eventually these elected officials will return to the positions they held when running for office. Their futures are tied to their direct efforts to better our craft and class. Does the twu offer any of these basic principles in unionism?

At the end of the day the question remains... are you better off with an undemocratic, unaccountable industrial union that offers nothing but empty slogans or are you better off with a democratic, accountable craft union controlled by YOU and held accountable by YOU!!

The twu fears this "change from within" and rightfully so because this change does not include their self serving ways. The twu does not defend their constitution because they can not defend the undefendable. Rather they will say the membership is not capable or smart enough to do what other independent unions like the American Pilots and Flight Attendants have done. Why should we support a union that has no faith in its own membership?

If you are tired of empty slogans and wish to read a constitution that YOU control visit the AMP web site, WWW.AMPNATIONAL.ORG, and educate yourself on what the future holds for us. Do not listen to the fearful moans of the twu who can only peddle concessionary contracts one after the other because they refuse to use a foundation of democracy and accountability. Sign an AMP authorization card and tell the twu it's time to "change from within"!

Ken MacTiernan
A&P, I.A.
AA AMT
 
WOW!

Almost two weeks and cio, hss and gang have no negative reply to this post? I guess the truth finally silenced them.
 
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