Are you saying that the company must get approval from ALPA to furlough pilots we don't need?
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Did I say this in my reply?? No. The company hasn't been following our contract since Sept. 11, why should they now.
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Before anyone replies, I already know about the "sit on your ass" pay that (some) pilots receive because of fleet retirements.
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As for the sit on your butt pay, you and I both know that F/A's are trained on every type of equipment UAL has and pilots are trained specifically to a type of airplane and seat. Would you rather the company pay these pilots, who no longer can holder a particular seat due to aircraft retirement or bumps, the full 75 hours to sit at home, or pay them 60 hours and save the company some money??
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If this company has excess people on the payroll they should be furloughed, regardless of what they do. This company will never trim its fat with contract provisions, whether management or labor, that allows all too precious revenue to end up in the pockets of employees who aren't necessary. No offense to you, but have you been following the "How many supervisors do you need to load a plane?" thread.
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Yes I have been following this thread and I agree about the number of supervisors. I have some friends who are F/A's and all they tell me about is the excess number of supervisors they have. As someone stated, I have also seen guys on my walk arounds just sitting in tugs on the ramp watching the hard working guys load the airplane while they get the sit on your butt pay.
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Can you explain why surplus pilots should not be furloughed (after the necessary training takes place for seat/fleet change) like the rest of us. Don't you think that's rather elite, and bad for the airline as a whole? I really don't understand this.
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Like I said, the company has extra employees and I am one of them right now. So yes, I will be at the unemployment office most likely Jan. 1, 2003. Tilton has already stated that there are going to be more pilot furlouhgs and I am going to be one of them.
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