Ual F/a Chaos

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UAL flight attendants step up Chaos
From the Crain's Chicago Business Newsroom
May 05 17:40:00, 2005
By Kate Ryan
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United Airlines flight attendants barged into a class at Northwestern University's Kellogg School of Management on Wednesday, bearing a petition to hand to the school's Dean Dipak Jain, a member of United's board of directors.
Ten flight attendants wearing neon green T-shirts ran down the aisles as the class was beginning, but were surprised to find a guest speaker at the front of the room instead of the usual instructor, Mr. Jain. The flight attendants presented the speaker with a petition signed by 12,000 current and former United flight attendants and employees, protesting the company's management of executive pay and worker pension plans.

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Good evening Ladies and Gentlemen and welcome to Dear AFA. Today is Friday, May 6, and this is AFA Denver Council 9 volunteer Allen Ward, reporting.

We are fully prepared to defend our pensions in the bankruptcy court on Tuesday, May 10 and throughout the rest of next week even as executives remain obsessed with termination of all employee pension plans -- save one Glenn F. Tilton $4.5 million pension trust. Our CHAOSTM campaign continues to escalate as we educate management, the creditors, the media and the bankruptcy court about the potential for CHAOS strikes up to and including a system-wide strike action. It should be clear that we are not on strike at this time. But, if our Contract, or any part of our Contract is unilaterally altered or abrogated by the company, we are legally permitted to strike or engage in CHAOS work stoppages. There won’t be a 30-day cooling-off period, or a specific strike deadline as in more traditional negotiations we are accustomed to under the Railway Labor Act if United management persists in abrogating our contract through the bankruptcy process in order to terminate our pension. It is that unilateral change to our agreement that triggers our right to strike in response.

In the heavy-handed management style we have all come to expect from United executives, the company issued a letter to AFA and copied immediately to the media intended to misinform, intimidate and threaten Flight Attendants from exercising our right to strike under the Railway Labor Act. The Chicago Tribune thoroughly addressed the issue of an airline worker’s right to strike today and quoted Douglas Baird as a “bankruptcy expert at the University of Chicago Law School†stating that it’s an unprecedented argument the airline is making. "There's a deep-seated principle that's working here independent of the airlines," he said. "This is a country where we don't force people to work under terms and conditions they never agreed to." The counter point quote in the article was provided by an attorney recently on the payroll at United and who has represented US Airways in its efforts to terminate its contract with the machinists.

United’s propaganda letter is posted on our website in the CHAOS section along with a response from AFA General Counsel David Borer which rejects the trumped up legal smoke and mirrors meant to dissuade you from challenging the greed of current mismanagement and fighting for our airline and career built on the backs of front-line employees. Our letter exposes the amateur attempt by United’s General Counsel to cite a case decided under the National Labor Relations Act, not the Railway Labor Act (RLA), and does not apply to airlines. Instead, our letter refers United to the leading case on the subject of intermittent strikes under the RLA, which happens to be AFA versus Alaska Airline, Inc. That court refused to declare CHAOS unlawful under the RLA and went on to enjoin the carrier from “indefinitely suspending, discharging, or threatening to discharge flight attendants who participate in CHAOS intermittent work stoppages†and ordered the reinstatement of seventeen flight attendants indefinitely suspended as a result of their participation in an intermittent work stoppage.

Flight Attendants can expect to receive some form of intimidation from United management in the form of a letter or some other communication. Reject those union-busting tactics and tell this greedy, inept management, “I will not be threatened or intimidated from invoking my legal right to strike. I am committed to defending my career and my airline from the destructive tactics of current management and you should know that a commitment tested in fire only grows stronger.â€

AFA will take swift and decisive action to defend the rights of our Members. Stand strong and rest in action based in truth and solidarity.

Our CHAOS campaign struck campus Wednesday night when a contingent of Flight Attendants in neon green CHAOS T-shirts “stormed a class room†to deliver 12,000 petition signatures to United Board member Dipak Jain, just before a scheduled lecture at Northwestern University.

The petitions called on UAL executives to “give back the money made on the backs of employees.†We launched our petition drive when United’s Security and Exchange Commission 10-k filing revealed in March that executives received huge bonuses on top of their lucrative salaries, all at a time when they have asked us to make life-changing sacrifices in pay, benefits and pensions.

Professor Jain is the Dean of Northwestern’s Kellogg School of Business. His lecture was to be in a large lecture hall with theater seating. At the last minute, we learned that a guest lecturer was scheduled to address Professor Jain’s class. Dr. Jain was no where to be seen when we entered the lecture hall.

Our spokesperson and MEC CHAOS Strike Co-Coordinator, Sara Nelson Dela Cruz, headed for the stage with MEC CHAOS Strike Co-Coordinator Jeff Heisey and MEC Membership Engagement Chairperson-elect Rodney Wojcik as escorts, one on each side.

A TV cameraman from the local ABC affiliate shot footage from the aisle as the whole place went dead silent with the announcement, "may I have your attention.†The guest lecturer backed away from center stage, shocked and confused.

Sara brandished our petitions in one hand as she spoke to the audience of stunned MBA students. When she finished talking about the greed of United executives and their enormous bonuses, she slammed the petitions down on the professor’s desk. Then we said 'since the Dean isn't here we are going to entrust our petitions with his students, and ask that you make sure he receives them with our message to the rest of United’s Board of Directors. Employees have had enough! Return the money to bankrupt United Airlines!'

Once in the hallway, someone noticed Dean Jain arriving after all, so we confronted him in front of the reporters and late arriving students. Face to face, we told him what had just taken place and why, and asked him to recognize the hard work of front-line employees and take action against executive bonuses at United.

Within ten minutes, National Public Radio was reporting that United Airlines Flight Attendants “stormed the Kellogg Business School Campus,†confronted one of United’s Board of Directors and demanded: Return the Money.

Meanwhile, the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (IAM) continues its roving strike vote throughout the system. We received a letter from the in appreciation of our resolution of support in defending the IAM Contracts. President and Directing General Chairman Randy Canale ends the letter stating, “We are all in the same boat together, and unfortunately for UAL Management... the name of that boat is ‘Solidarity.’â€

Thank you for calling and continue to remain informed and engaged as we stand in solidarity to save our airline and our careers.
 
Give it up. This is a waste of your time and everyone elses. You know what's coming, so just bend over and take your lumps :mf_boff:
 
Fly said:
I am committed to defending my career and my airline from the destructive tactics of current management ...........
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Not to defend management, because they have made their mistakes as we all have, but do you really think that the current team of managers was hired to enact "destructive tactics" inside the company to cause it's demise. IMO I seriously doubt it.

As you knew it, your career is already gone. :shock: So, what are you going to defend?
 
TheDog2004 said:
This is such a great idea. Let's step on the gas pedal and increase speed to liquidation.
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Ahhhh..........Someone sees the light :shock:
 
As a former union member at US Airways (early retirement pre EO), I wonder if a difference would have been made if all Airlines with Unions would have gotten together before the wheels fell of the (industry) cart? I applaud United Employees for their attempt to stop the freight train running right at them, even though IMHO it may very well be too late.

We certainly failed at Airways, to stop the train - but the Judge has never said no to the Company.


Good Luck,

Father





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Fatherknowsbest said:
As a former union member at US Airways (early retirement pre EO), I wonder if a difference would have been made if all Airlines with Unions would have gotten together before the wheels fell of the (industry) cart? I applaud United Employees for their attempt to stop the freight train running right at them, even though IMHO it may very well be too late.

We certainly failed at Airways, to stop the train - but the Judge has never said no to the Company.
Good Luck,

Father
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If labor unions had stuck together when one airline started to dismantle their union's collective contracts things would be different. But labor in the airlines is structured as such that there were these seperate little fiefdoms and these fiefdoms looked at an attack on another fiefdom as not their problem. Untill the attack was at their doorsteps. Just like before WWII with Germany and Japan.

I do not think it is too late though for those remaining to stand and fight. For those who admit to having already lost please sit down and get out of the way. Cowards only get in the way. Ken MacTiernan AA AMT
 
I support our AMFA brothers and CHAOS...it's not about UAL vs the workers necessarily it's about AMERICAN WORKERS vs. EXECUTIVE TEAMS. Case in point...ENRON, MCI, and of course Glenn Tilton's 4.5mil pension. Last I looked we all worked our asses off and lost ours. Hmmm sounds fair doesn't it. Strike'em then so be it. :angry:
 
Response to UAL General Counsel Lovejoy Intimidation Tactics

See Also: Lovejoy Letter of Attempted Intimidation
May 6, 2005

PDF Version

Via Fax and U.S. Mail
Mr. Paul R. Lovejoy
Senior Vice President
General Counsel and Secretary
United Airlines
1200 East Algonquin Rd.
Elk Grove Township, IL 60007
Re: Threatened Abrogation of Flight Attendant Collective Bargaining Agreement
Dear Paul,
Your letter dated May 6, 2005 neglects the real issue between the parties: United’s threatened abrogation of the Flight Attendant Collective Bargaining Agreement. United is simply incorrect in the view that it can unilaterally alter or terminate our contract without the usual consequences under the Railway Labor Act 45 U.S.C. § 151 et seq. (“RLAâ€).
The Company, not AFA, will have violated the Railway Labor Act if management follows through on its threats to abrogate our contract in whole or in part. Under the RLA, an employer that unilaterally modifies a collective bargaining agreement has created a "major dispute" over which employees may strike. Bhd. of R.R. Trainmen v. Jacksonville Terminal Co., 394 U.S. 369, 378-80 (1969); Pan Am. World Airways v. IBT, 894 F.2d 36 (2d Cir. 1990). "If the [carrier] is free [to] . . . resort to self-help, the union cannot be expected to hold back its own economic weapons." Detroit & Toledo Shore Line v. UTU, 396 U.S. 142, 155 (1969).
Your citation of Lodge 76, Int’l Ass’n of Machinists v. Wisconsin Employment Relations Commission, 427 U.S. 132 is as mistaken as it is self-serving. You know as well as I do that Lodge 76 was a case decided under the National Labor Relations Act (“NLRAâ€), not the RLA, and does not apply to airlines and other parties governed by the RLA.
I would refer you instead to the leading case on the subject of intermittent strikes under the RLA, AFA v. Alaska Airlines, Inc., 847 F.Supp. 832 (W.D. Wash. 1993) (“Alaskaâ€). In that case, the district court specifically refused to adopt the NLRA analysis you are suggesting and declined to declare AFA’s CHAOS program of intermittent strikes as unlawful under the RLA:
. . . this court finds it would be improvident to import such distinctions from the NLRA into the RLA and thus declines to determine whether the CHAOS work stoppages would be considered protected or unprotected activity under the RLA scheme. --- Alaska, 847 F.Supp. at 835.
Most important for our purposes in the current dispute, the Alaska court went on to enjoin the carrier from “indefinitely suspending, discharging, or threatening to discharge flight attendants who participate in CHAOS intermittent work stoppages†and ordered the reinstatement of seventeen flight attendants indefinitely suspended as a result of their participation in an intermittent work stoppage. Alaska 847 F.Supp. at 838.
In light of the Alaska decision I must advise you to immediately rescind the threats of discipline ‘up to and including termination’ for any flight attendant who engages in CHAOS activity and to cease and desist from making such threats in the future. Such threats are clearly unlawful. If the Company persists in these illegal threats, or if the Company takes the threatened action against any individual, AFA will take swift and decisive legal action to protect the rights of our members.
I will not address directly the lip service your letter gives to the need for consensual resolution of the disagreements between the parties. Suffice it to say that, for the past 29 months, AFA and the flight attendants we represent have played a positive role in the reorganization efforts of this Company. Our members have made life-altering sacrifices for the sake of saving their airline. But those sacrifices have been desecrated by executives who continue to line their own pockets -- with raises, bonuses and pension windfalls -- at the expense of the workers who built United Airlines. What those same executives do not seem to understand is that a never-ending series of devastating cuts to pay, benefits and working conditions is not a business plan; it’s a recipe for a labor relations meltdown.
Finally, I must remind you that CHAOS, and Create Havoc Around Our System™, are trademarks of the Association of Flight Attendants-CWA, AFL-CIO. Your use of those terms in your correspondence and in other written and electronic communication without proper acknowledgement of our ownership of the mark is a violation of AFA’s trademark rights. Please cease and desist in the unauthorized use of our trademarks or AFA will be forced to take appropriate legal action.

Sincerely,
David A. Borer
AFA General

B) UT
 
I am very impressed by these UAL flight attendants. Do not listen to the naysayers. Obviously if no one ever took a stand, change would not happen. I believe it is important for the BOD to see the worker as human beings. It doesn't hurt to point out that these same human beings are mad.
You all are heroes.
Terry Casto
AAL flight attendant
 
I am sure that Sara's soliloquy to a bunch of disinterested MBA students will go far to improve the daily lot and security of the line UAL flight attendant.

In fact, it will help us all. Every flight attendant should lobby Congress for a bronze statue of Sara with her arm outstretched holding this petition. It can be placed on the Mall in Washington DC. That way, we can all place flowers there to remember the sacrifices made on “Publically Confront the Wrong Guy Day of 2005.â€￾ :huh:
 
aislehopper said:
I am sure that Sara's soliloquy to a bunch of disinterested MBA students will go far to improve the daily lot and security of the line UAL flight attendant.

In fact, it will help us all. Every flight attendant should lobby Congress for a bronze statue of Sara with her arm outstretched holding this petition. It can be placed on the Mall in Washington DC. That way, we can all place flowers there to remember the sacrifices made on “Publically Confront the Wrong Guy Day of 2005.â€￾ :huh:
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Aislehopper,

"Long time no type" :) :)

ANY THING, ANY TACTIC that can be used to get attention, and to STOP UA, or any "Enron type airline corp." MUST be used, and used "NOW" !!!!!!!!!!

I think(sadly for a lot of folks at UA), you and I KNOW UA cannot be saved !!

So, we seem to be at a point(with UA) approaching EA's last few weeks.

Would YOU argue that the people at EA, at that point in time, were wrong to shut down EA, so a "DEMON" like lorenzo, could not proceed much further ???


NH/BB's
 
Man, where does one even start with this? It's so inane that I can't even believe the AFA owned up to it. So a bunch of flight attendants barged into this guy's classroom at work in super cool co-ordinated T-shirts hoping to surprise a member of the UAL board and he wasn't even in the classroom? And even if had been there, what were they thinking? Did they think that the guy had a few billion in his briefcase under his desk to fund their pensions? Did they think that this guy of all of a sudden would have a change of heart (not that it would matter) because a bunch of loud, color coordinated rabble rousers are really, really mad about the Chapter 11 process? And by the way Mr. Board of Directors guy, you had better read that part about not using the 'C' word or we'll sue you for trademark infringement. UFB!

And on top of that they threaten wildcat strikes (I won't use the real word for fear of copyright infringement he-he) as if scaring passengers away and making UAL's financial position WORSE will better help the AFA's situation in getting a better contract or their pensions funded? You gotta love the AFA at least for the entertainment value.