Lav Man I stand corrected then. The article I read said that all of the UAL Heavy checks were going to be farmed out in the new contract. That SFO would remain open and perform limited heavy mtc work. I will see if I can find the article, and apologize if I was incorrect.
United Airlines announced that they wont take war defferal money from their employees
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Just because UA decided not to take the war deferral, why is that the proper thing for US to do? If UA makes a decision to close all their heavy maintenance facilities and contract it out (which the did), should we? Is that the proper thing to do? UA decided rather then take the 5% pay deferral they were going to continue to reduce their flying by 12%+. Should we do the same? We adjusted our flying 5% for April, and only very minor modifications to the schedule for May. Who is to say who is right, UA or US?
I agree that it would be a huge boost for morale, but I wouldn''t hold my breath. You also have to stop equating todays load factors as a sign that the recovery is in full swing. Easter Week is a hige travel week for Spring Break. The next 4-8 weeks will be a better indication of the effects of the war and what the real turn around is.
I agree that it would be a huge boost for morale, but I wouldn''t hold my breath. You also have to stop equating todays load factors as a sign that the recovery is in full swing. Easter Week is a hige travel week for Spring Break. The next 4-8 weeks will be a better indication of the effects of the war and what the real turn around is.
I can''t find the article that i read, but in the UAL thread there is a Topic Mechanic T/A that shows they do have the ability, if ratified, to close OAK and IND.
Is U the only airline deducting money from their employees pay, If so why? Is U after filing for bankruptcy still in such dire need of cash they find it necessary to take away another 5% from its employees?
Or are they taking away the 5% simply because they can?
Or are they taking away the 5% simply because they can?
Mark, yes UAL wants to close IND and OAK if the contract is ratified, but I would bet the farm it goes down in a blaze of glory and the judge will impose UAL''s terms on the mechanic and related.
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On 4/25/2003 1
06 PM tug_slug wrote:
Is U the only airline deducting money from their employees pay, If so why? Is U after filing for bankruptcy still in such dire need of cash they find it necessary to take away another 5% from its employees?
Or are they taking away the 5% simply because they can?
Tug, are you a carpenter? You hit the nail right on the head!
On 4/25/2003 1
06 PM tug_slug wrote: Is U the only airline deducting money from their employees pay, If so why? Is U after filing for bankruptcy still in such dire need of cash they find it necessary to take away another 5% from its employees?
Or are they taking away the 5% simply because they can?
Tug, are you a carpenter? You hit the nail right on the head!
Phoenix
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On 4/25/2003 9
08 AM PineyBob wrote:I frankly would submit to you that their integrity is just fine,..
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Pilots think they are kool and pretend that gravity is a part-time thing because they can fly. And there are people that think they are kool and believe that itegrity is a part-time thing because they can lie.
Funny thing, how integrity and gravity are a lot alike.
According to Labor UNfriendly Dave''s phone message today he has no intention of giving it back.
And the chances of U showing a profit in order for the 5% war give-back to end...................NOT at least for the next 18months.
We won''t see that 5% for 18 months I hope that the company will also include interest from our money
Dave also noted that there won''t be any $$ for our suggestions, unlike the other airline suggestion programs that gave out rewards (CO/AA).
It is nice to see that Dave can still joke around while he is taking our money. His quote of the day from his weekly message, "a 300lb jockey can''t win a race". I am really laughing- NOT
Dave also noted that there won''t be any $$ for our suggestions, unlike the other airline suggestion programs that gave out rewards (CO/AA).
It is nice to see that Dave can still joke around while he is taking our money. His quote of the day from his weekly message, "a 300lb jockey can''t win a race". I am really laughing- NOT
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I listened to the phone message. It doesn't matter that the government is going to cut U a big check to cover effects from the war in Iraq, Dave is still going to take/keep the 5%. Not because he has to but because he can. It's obvious that he has no intention of terminating the pay deferal until he has to. So unless we show a profit, we are stuck with yet another pay cut.
Frankly I'm sick of this.
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GIVE IT BACK!!!!!
Frankly I'm sick of this.
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GIVE IT BACK!!!!!
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On 4/25/2003 7:48:26 PM Phoenix wrote:
Pilots think they are kool and pretend that gravity is a part-time thing because they can fly. And there are people that think they are kool and believe that itegrity is a part-time thing because they can lie.
Funny thing, how integrity and gravity are a lot alike.
The employees of this company have plenty of integrity, but I can assure you they didn't learn it from the management.
A320 Driver
GIVE IT BACK!!!!!
On 4/25/2003 7:48:26 PM Phoenix wrote:
Pilots think they are kool and pretend that gravity is a part-time thing because they can fly. And there are people that think they are kool and believe that itegrity is a part-time thing because they can lie.
Funny thing, how integrity and gravity are a lot alike.
The employees of this company have plenty of integrity, but I can assure you they didn't learn it from the management.
A320 Driver
GIVE IT BACK!!!!!
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