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Us Airways Asks Court To Outsource All
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Dell:
Remember when the IAM said all along the "Concession Stand Is Closed"? Guess what, that still is the IAM's position and there has been little progress in negotiations.
Thus, what do you expect the company to do? If the IAM refuses to talk this gives the company tremendous leverage to outsource all heavy maintenance.
Now, what is really happening...The IAM is scared to death that AMFA will end up representing US Airways' mechanics and the IAM will not cut a deal that will eliminate jobs that could encourage the remaining mechanics to vote the IAM off of the property. Furthermore, the Company wants to eliminate all Utility and the IAM cannot agree to a deal that eliminates an entire job classification.
This would be political suicide. Thus, what is the IAM's option? To permit "imposition", with even deeper cuts than necessary, to keep the union alive at US Airways without the political fallout.
The losers? US Airways' IAM members, all of whom are great people, who will have more "pain" than was necessary if a deal had been cut earlier.
What can be done? IAM rank-and-file members can demand their union cut a deal before Judge Mitchell imposes contract terms. Remember that the court can only pick either the company's or unions last contract offer. Thus, which one do you believe will be imposed?
Finally, why do you think the IAM has not publicly commented on a strike like the CWA and AFA? In my opinion, they will be satisfied with "imposition" because it takes the IAM off of the hook at the expense of US Airways members.
Let’s hope there is a consensual agreement and the "pain" is limited as much as possible...because nobody likes what is unfolding.
Regards,
USA320Pilot
Remember when the IAM said all along the "Concession Stand Is Closed"? Guess what, that still is the IAM's position and there has been little progress in negotiations.
Thus, what do you expect the company to do? If the IAM refuses to talk this gives the company tremendous leverage to outsource all heavy maintenance.
Now, what is really happening...The IAM is scared to death that AMFA will end up representing US Airways' mechanics and the IAM will not cut a deal that will eliminate jobs that could encourage the remaining mechanics to vote the IAM off of the property. Furthermore, the Company wants to eliminate all Utility and the IAM cannot agree to a deal that eliminates an entire job classification.
This would be political suicide. Thus, what is the IAM's option? To permit "imposition", with even deeper cuts than necessary, to keep the union alive at US Airways without the political fallout.
The losers? US Airways' IAM members, all of whom are great people, who will have more "pain" than was necessary if a deal had been cut earlier.
What can be done? IAM rank-and-file members can demand their union cut a deal before Judge Mitchell imposes contract terms. Remember that the court can only pick either the company's or unions last contract offer. Thus, which one do you believe will be imposed?
Finally, why do you think the IAM has not publicly commented on a strike like the CWA and AFA? In my opinion, they will be satisfied with "imposition" because it takes the IAM off of the hook at the expense of US Airways members.
Let’s hope there is a consensual agreement and the "pain" is limited as much as possible...because nobody likes what is unfolding.
Regards,
USA320Pilot
You could not be more far off base.
The IAM is not scared about AMFA, AMFA has all ready tried to represent US Airways mechanics and they could not muster enough A-Cards to seek an election.
And the IAM does not believe in throwing its members under the bus, unlike your union and its members.
And the IAM has stated it would strike after a contract abrogation and honor a picket line if any union strikes. Something ALPA knows nothing about, remember 92!
So keep trying.
The IAM is not scared about AMFA, AMFA has all ready tried to represent US Airways mechanics and they could not muster enough A-Cards to seek an election.
And the IAM does not believe in throwing its members under the bus, unlike your union and its members.
And the IAM has stated it would strike after a contract abrogation and honor a picket line if any union strikes. Something ALPA knows nothing about, remember 92!
So keep trying.
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hey 320 pilots, how long before management decides to outsource all the pilot jobs? You have already opened the door to a lot of it, how long before they get the rest???
i didn't want to let this out but i think you're right...our chief negotiator may have had a nervous breakdown and has been hiding in a cave up in the woods in virginia. we're doing our best to get him to come out and hopefully if we get some coffee and a good meal in him he may be ready in time to save us.the IAM crisis intervention team is top notch and has assured him we won't defect to AMFA.we even have a letter from augie dellefamine promising not to have another organizing drive if he comes out of the cave.
regards,
delldude
700:
You can put all the numbers you want on this board ( the 141 webpage dated September 13, 2004, states different counts) but I can guarantee you that the licensed mechanics on the grounds of U, would like to be represented by their own professional union, be it AMFA or IAM. The other members can seek separate representation for their job classification.
You can put all the numbers you want on this board ( the 141 webpage dated September 13, 2004, states different counts) but I can guarantee you that the licensed mechanics on the grounds of U, would like to be represented by their own professional union, be it AMFA or IAM. The other members can seek separate representation for their job classification.
District 141 has nothing to do with the mechanic and related, that is fleet service at US.
District 142 represents the Mechanic and Related, and if the mechanics wanted AMFA they had enough #s to accomplish it.
And the NMB determines class and craft, that is why NO airline has a "mechanics" only union.
District 142 represents the Mechanic and Related, and if the mechanics wanted AMFA they had enough #s to accomplish it.
And the NMB determines class and craft, that is why NO airline has a "mechanics" only union.
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