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US Airways' merger glow dims

It's Christmas time man -- it's the season for miracles! The company motto is: Do ewe believe in miracles??
 
I hope the "merger" is a success for all our sakes. I believe it is salvation for BOTH our airlines. As for the seniority issue, we at Piedmont didn't believe it was 'fair and equitable' when we only received partial credit for our seniority during the so-called "merger" with the old USAirways. I don't feel it would be 'fair and equitable' to use anything other than date of hire with the new US. I don't want to see ANYONE!!! lose their job; but if your seniority under date of hire won't hold you a position with the new US, it probably means you're still young enough to go seek a position elsewhere. Sorry, but that's the way seniority works. I wish you well; and I'll be praying for you. I've got twenty-two years; and you can tell the Teamsters I'm not taking partial credit for any of them without a fight. I'll stick with the I.A.M.; thank you very much.
As far as infighting goes, in our station our gates are side by side. Everyone here seems to be adjusting just fine. We're not swapping spit yet, but handshakes, hugs, and smiles are being freely passed around.

God bless and good luck to all,
TheLazarusman
 
I have been enjoying lurking on this board for several days... I don't really see much of an issue with the merger that won't be ironed out in the mediation process between all the unions and management. Having come from a union strong job previously, (One where I feel that the union blew it for us), I just hope we don't lose people with experience. I have been in posistions that required me to make decisions requiring furloughs and forced retirement. I don't envy anyone with a high paying job in the new airline. I have a sinking feeling with every new day that we will simply see the hiring of younger people who will take whatever they are handed with a smile simply because they have a lack of experience in the corporate world. The airline industry is struggling right now and many of us still stand to lose our jobs. Watch and see, our seniority will be the least of our problems. Ask some of the UAW workers how much their seniority helped them to keep their jobs. I'm willing to bet that they got rid of a lot of people with years of training and high wages for people who were willing to work for less. It is time that we all started looking towards management to quickly resolve these issues with fairness towards all employees involved.
 
UWCactus said:
I agree...may have been one situation involving some agressive types that made it's way into the paper somehow...probably through the HP F/A union.
One thing that US East has not known is after the merger announcement was made...he made it clear to employees that "America West needed this merger". Some employee groups chose not to believe this...but it was out there for all to understand.
Please remember...Jerry Glass was with America West previous to the old US Airways. I just can't remember timeframe he was there.
The only battles I've seen are on these posts....not in person and not in the workplace.
I tend to agree with this statement...thank you. The facts are this...US West was not in financial dire straits at the time of this merger announcement. However, they were unable to generate the revenue on a consistent basis to stay afloat for a long time. With fuel prices on the rise and competition heating up in leisure markets, which tend to be low revenue yield...ie, phx, las..etc, something had to be done before US West ended up in a difficult situation. This merger was right for BOTH carriers....and it certainly made sense....unfortunately employees of the two carriers don't seem to be convinced of this and its unfortunate. I have to say...US East definitely has the more negative outlook on this and with management than West has ever felt under Doug Parker.

Please give this merger time before you write it off, it's too important for so many employees..that this work.
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I dont necessarily think the Ueast folks have a negative outlook on the merger. Its more to the fact we dont trust CEO's and their posse's. We have learned to be very cautious. The Ueast people have lived through and survived many mergers, this one is no different. We know the HP groups are afraid of the unknown, and can respect that. Its not easy, nothing in life is. Your Ueast coworkers, can offer the benefit of experience on this particular issue. We are all striving for the same outcome. Secure and stable futures.
 
It's gripe boards like this one that fuel the articles like the one in USA Today and the AZ Republic. It's a shame that most reporters are too lazy to research other than through the internet. Maybe if they found an employee willing to speak with them , they would uncover the truth.

Doing your job (and doing it well) makes you want to continue doing your job. Sitting here griping and whining about it makes you think you're a fool not to quit.
 
proudf/a said:
I dont necessarily think the Ueast folks have a negative outlook on the merger. Its more to the fact we dont trust CEO's and their posse's. We have learned to be very cautious. The Ueast people have lived through and survived many mergers, this one is no different. We know the HP groups are afraid of the unknown, and can respect that. Its not easy, nothing in life is. Your Ueast coworkers, can offer the benefit of experience on this particular issue. We are all striving for the same outcome. Secure and stable futures.
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I think every work group that has been through hell with management in previous days is a tough thing to work through. Like I've said on these posts before..when Parker took over for Franke, employees did not trust him. but now 5 years later, he has proven to be a good leader for the airline. Now that a new employee base has been added, he is facing the same type of scrutiny, hopefully it will be short lived and only among the negative of people. The danger in all of this, is to hurt the merger outcome before it even has a chance to work.

The west FA union could probably do a better job of keeping it's members informed of facts, figures and expectations. This lack of reliable information is making the US West FA's very fearful, anxious and quite frankly..uninformed. There are a few loudmouths out there that I could see would create an issue with other FA's, it's take tact to avoid arguments. However these few should not speak for the majority or represent the majority of the workforce. They are still in denial of this merger that they can't even mention "US Airways" while making announcements.
 
UWCactus said:
I think every work group that has been through hell with management in previous days is a tough thing to work through. Like I've said on these posts before..when Parker took over for Franke, employees did not trust him. but now 5 years later, he has proven to be a good leader for the airline. Now that a new employee base has been added, he is facing the same type of scrutiny, hopefully it will be short lived and only among the negative of people. The danger in all of this, is to hurt the merger outcome before it even has a chance to work.

The west FA union could probably do a better job of keeping it's members informed of facts, figures and expectations. This lack of reliable information is making the US West FA's very fearful, anxious and quite frankly..uninformed. There are a few loudmouths out there that I could see would create an issue with other FA's, it's take tact to avoid arguments. However these few should not speak for the majority or represent the majority of the workforce. They are still in denial of this merger that they can't even mention "US Airways" while making announcements.
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Very well said...kudos
 
Awa Contract said:
I trust Parker about as much as I do any of my ex-wives
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If you don't trust the leader of your employer....then do us a favor and go find yourself a CEO that you can trust, work hard for and believe in. But dont quit and never leave here. You probably won't be missed around US Airways.
 
hpal said:
I have been enjoying lurking on this board for several days... I don't really see much of an issue with the merger that won't be ironed out in the mediation process between all the unions and management. Having come from a union strong job previously, (One where I feel that the union blew it for us), I just hope we don't lose people with experience. I have been in posistions that required me to make decisions requiring furloughs and forced retirement. I don't envy anyone with a high paying job in the new airline. I have a sinking feeling with every new day that we will simply see the hiring of younger people who will take whatever they are handed with a smile simply because they have a lack of experience in the corporate world. The airline industry is struggling right now and many of us still stand to lose our jobs. Watch and see, our seniority will be the least of our problems. Ask some of the UAW workers how much their seniority helped them to keep their jobs. I'm willing to bet that they got rid of a lot of people with years of training and high wages for people who were willing to work for less. It is time that we all started looking towards management to quickly resolve these issues with fairness towards all employees involved.
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You sir have a firm grip on reality with one exception. This fairness you mentioned will be discounted and the God most people of this world worship will determine what happens, and that God is called MONEY.


If you want real peace of mind you have one and one option only, leave the airline industry or accept it's realities and all the turmoil that brings into your life.
 
proudf/a said:
Well there it is in black and white, where everyone can see it, that AWA also needed this merger to survive.
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That's not what he said.

It said Chapter 11 might have been an option. It's always an option.

No matter how much this is spun, HP did not need the merger, and it treated as the acquiring entity. You can search on my username to find the links to this effect on the bankruptcy court docket.
 
ClueByFour said:
That's not what he said.

It said Chapter 11 might have been an option. It's always an option.

No matter how much this is spun, HP did not need the merger, and it treated as the acquiring entity. You can search on my username to find the links to this effect on the bankruptcy court docket.
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This merger was needed by AWA in order to survive long term. The way the economy is today, and the state of this industry, AWA was not in a financial position to stay afloat alone. They knew that, that is why they went looking for a partner. The position US was in made them the perfect choice. The acquiring carrier really isnt an issue, thats just red tape and paperwork, they didnt purchase USAirways. If they had that kind of cash, there would of been no merger.
 
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