US airways puts in a bid for Delta!

[MCI transplant]

<_< ---- Just heard on CNN, that US Air is making an offer for Delta! Would be largest Airline if goes through! How would aa respond? Any thoughts?-----

 

[donttouchthebeauty]

It will be interesting to see what happens with AA and UAL if Dal and US merge... I am sure AA would try to do something to remain the largest... Thoughts or should i say concerns?

 

[777 fixer]

From what I have heard AA has no interest in joining the recent merger mania that has taken place within in the industry. Quite frankly if somone else wants the title "worlds largest airline" they can have it.

 

[glasspilot]

US airways puts in a bed for Delta!

USAir taking Delta to bed! Wow!

 

[flyhigh]

I think AA would be willing to relinquish the "World's Largest" title. What they won't do is allow UA, or anyone else for that matter, make the irrelavant. With that said, much like the UA/US proposal in 2000, there will be concessions to the gov't. Most likely candidate will be to jetison CLT & SLC hubs. I could see AA looking at CLT and CO at SLC. UA might be interested in CLT/PHL but PHL likely won't go into play.

 

[jimntx]

If this merger were to go through (and, I have my doubts), it might benefit AA without AA having to do anything. Just the logistics of merging two airlines with hubs close together (ATL-CLT, PHL-JFK), duplicate operations (both have an East Coast shuttle and a lot of overlap in domestic operations), a union vs. non-union workfoce suggests that the merger would keep both airlines distracted from the competition for a long time.

If nothing else, here would be our chance to finally get a mainline East Coast shuttle. I doubt anyone would think for a second that the merged airline would get to keep both shuttle operations.

Also, I'm assuming that "almost" duplicate Transatlantic flights--PHL-CDG vs. JFK-CDG--would have to be eliminated.

 

[FA Mikey]

Don't think AA is so committed to the worlds largest moniker. All those years we were quite content under Crandall as being refereed to as the second largest, United being the largest.

I see in the short term AA making a bid for the Shuttle.

 

[jimntx]

I think AA would be willing to relinquish the "World's Largest" title. What they won't do is allow UA, or anyone else for that matter, make the irrelavant. With that said, much like the UA/US proposal in 2000, there will be concessions to the gov't. Most likely candidate will be to jetison CLT & SLC hubs. I could see AA looking at CLT and CO at SLC. UA might be interested in CLT/PHL but PHL likely won't go into play.

I don't think we care that much about "world's largest." AA was content for many years to be #2 to United. Problem with your scenario vis-a-vis the hubs is that Doug Parker said this morning in his hotline to LCC employees that the combined airline would keep ATL, CLT, PHX, and SLC as hubs. Interestingly nothing was said about LAS or PHL. The LCC employees seem to think this signals a downsizing of the former AWA hub at LAS to a focus city and moving international ops from LCC's PHL hub to DL's JFK hub.

 

[LD3]

While the O & D numbers are not that good in CLT, where else can an airline move a pax thru for a little over $2.00 per pax....The low operating cost in CLT may attract someone, it's a turn key operation....If CLT is dehubbed, I'd be willing to bet WN will take a concourse over...

 

[jimntx]

As has already been said on another thread, ATL can get backed up on a bright blue sky day just from the sheer numbers of DL flights. Now, imagine adding all of CLT's Caribbean and European flights to ATL.

CLT will need to stay--at least for the foreseeable future.

 

[eolesen]

It's an interesting match-up, but one that will result in a lot of cuts.

You can't have primary international hubs in both PHL and JFK. One has to go.

CLT and ATL serve the same hinterland, and trying to split regional feed over competing hubs that close to each other will be about as successful as it was for AA to keep ORD and STL as full hubs. One had to go.

That said, there's a fair degree of O&D traffic in CLT that would survive, as it did with STL.

CVG is less clear-cut. It would give US the central hub it lacks, but it's also got some overlap with CLT and PHL, so something has to give.


As I mentioned on the other merger threads, I see AA sitting this round out and concentrating on getting its own house in order while everyone else is distracted.

 

[MCI transplant]

USAir taking Delta to bed! Wow!

😳 Learn something new about this Board every day! You can't edit new thread headings! Stepped on it, didn't I? It happens!----- 😉 Just be glad it doesn't happen when I'm working on your Aircraft!!!! :unsure:

 

[MCI transplant]

I think AA would be willing to relinquish the "World's Largest" title. What they won't do is allow UA, or anyone else for that matter, make the irrelevant. With that said, much like the UA/US proposal in 2000, there will be concessions to the gov't. Most likely candidate will be to jetison CLT & SLC hubs. I could see AA looking at CLT and CO at SLC. UA might be interested in CLT/PHL but PHL likely won't go into play.

<_< -----You do have a point! At what point will the Government say "No more!" The Airlines are big enough and any further consolidation would be detrimental to the economy!

 

[LCC_#1]

USAir taking Delta to bed! Wow!

The question is...Will Delta spit or swallow?

 

[TWskyliner]

The question is...Will Delta spit or swallow?

Good one LCC...hopefully both parties will use lube for this "airline marriage." I'm still sore from my last union...