US and DL trade blows on new hub routes

[WorldTraveler]

Start Spreading the News: Delta Connection Offering Customers Daily, Non-stop Flights between Charlotte, N.C., and New York
Thursday October 7, 12:00 pm ET
Comair to Offer Four Daily Flights to New York's Kennedy and La Guardia Airports

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041007/clth065_1.html

 

[BoeingBoy]

In the first quarter, there were an average of 898 passengers a day at an average one-way fare of $329 (yield = 60.6 cents).

source: Consumer Air Fare Report

Jim

 

[balloonguy]

Start Spreading the News: Delta Connection Offering Customers Daily, Non-stop Flights between Charlotte, N.C., and New York
Thursday October 7, 12:00 pm ET
Comair to Offer Four Daily Flights to New York's Kennedy and La Guardia Airports

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041007/clth065_1.html

[post="188763"][/post]​

It's called "free enterprise". Get used to it.

 

[Art at ISP]

Perhaps the days of $950 r/t LGA CLT are soon to be a thing of the past......I will take U any time over DL...

 

[700UW]

The Vultures are circling.

 

[funguy2]

And US Airways counters:

US Airways Introduces Nonstop Washington, D.C.-Atlanta Service With $98* Roundtrip Introductory Fare

 

[USFlyer]

US Airways Introduces Nonstop Washington, D.C.-Atlanta Service With $98* Roundtrip Introductory Fare

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041007/dcth032_1.html

My only comment is US tried this route once using RJs and pulled out.

 

[RowUnderDCA]

And US Airways counters:

US Airways Introduces Nonstop Washington, D.C.-Atlanta Service With $98* Roundtrip Introductory Fare

[post="188801"][/post]​

I think this is an interesting shoe to drop.

 

[ITRADE]

Back at you, Delta.

Yes, US used to run 3x daily Mesa RJs. It was halted due to 9-11 and never resumed.

 

[WorldTraveler]

Considering ATL Washington already has low fares and multiple competitors to every airport while CLT fares are high and there is no competition to LGA and no service at all to JFK, DL is likely to do more harm to US than the other way around.

These are the kind of cat fights that are costly in the short term but may (or may not) shape the outcome of the industry shakeout in the long term. In reality, I suspect DL’s move is more about getting a bigger foothold in CLT to keep another carrier out should US fails.

 

[USA320Pilot]

With a competitive cost structure and frequent traveler base, US Airways will match up well against Comair.

Passengers will continue to fly US Airways between CLT & LGA on a mainline aircraft versus an RJ with their FTP account growing.

Today's message: fares are coming down and costs must be lower than revenue.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[Light Years]

And US Airways counters:

US Airways Introduces Nonstop Washington, D.C.-Atlanta Service With $98* Roundtrip Introductory Fare

[post="188801"][/post]​

You go Airways! Its about time they stood up for themselves.

 

[RowUnderDCA]

You got to be looking for LGA to ATL, DFW, DTW and MIA in a point to point network... using EMB and larger.

 

[DLFlyer31]

Back at you, Delta.

Yes, US used to run 3x daily Mesa RJs. It was halted due to 9-11 and never resumed.

[post="188809"][/post]​

I think both carriers will have a tough time making these new routes work. For DL, the 3x daily CLT-LGA on a CRJ won't compete well against US with mainline aircraft and better frequency. The 1x daily CLT-JFK should fare better...DL has done this single RJ feeder flight into other carriers hubs for years. DL already flies PIT-JFK and PHL-JFK.

US will also face a tough fight on DCA-ATL. The EMB170 is a better plane than the CRJ, but up against DL's hourly service, it will be a challenge. But what will make this fight even tougher is the presence of Airtran which flies 4x daily using 717's.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Well, since I posted the info on the CLT-NYC market, I'll do the same here...

Average of 2,635 passengers a day in 1st quarter with an average one-way fare of $161 (29.4 cent yield).

Same source

Jim