US-Mexico ready to expand bilateral, opportunities

[topDawg]

I was in ATL but not N/RM.

why does DL fly any route if they can have a lower cost carrier fly it? DL could walk away from JFK-MEX and ATL-MEX today - AM has flown or does fly both. why DOES DL stay?

well for one because they don't have a JV with AM. Duh. 

 

[WorldTraveler]

they own equity in AM and they could very well come up with a codeshare arrangement that easily costs less than what it would cost DL to fly... after all AM is a lower cost carrier.

DL doesn't really need 160-180 seats per flight.... a couple dozen on AM would cost a whole lot less than operating a DL flight.

Of course DL should just turn over its Mexican network to AM - and since you see demons behind every doorknob, DL undoubtedly will.

 

[MAH4546]

LAXMEX already is a bloodbath with just four carriers. LAXGDL is even worse. 
 
The money in MEX-U.S. market is Miami and Texas. 

 

[WorldTraveler]

uh, you THINK there is money from MIA and Texas to Latin America.

WN and B6 are just getting warmed up.

the new US-Mexico bilateral goes into effect in about 45 days. You can bet new route announcements will come out in spades over the next few months.

 

[jcw]

Translation:
 
The opening of US MEX will only apply to DL - no other airline will be able to increase flying to MEX

 

[WorldTraveler]

you play the role of stupid well.

if you really don't want to see me posting so much, don't post such ridiculous stuff.

nowhere has anyone said that the new US-Mexico agreement will apply only to DL.

nowhere.

again, if you want to not have to read so many posts, don't post clearly stupid things such as that only DL will benefit from this new treaty.

 

[jcw]

Bless your heart
 
Looks like you are sitting in front of a mirror this morning
 
are you unhinged again as you can't deal with sarcasm

 

[WorldTraveler]

unhinged would be someone that feels a need to put his initials on a new post for a conversation that has been discussed in dozens of threads... and then say that someone else is dominating the board.

grow up.


getting ticked off and then posting your own disconnected translations is not the way you are going to be a meaningful participant on this board

if you want to see someone besides me that can go down the list of topics, contribute to all of them, and make sense in everything he writes and not just fill up the page - even if I don't agree with him on every issue - look to dawg. I enjoy interacting with him and others who could care less how much they or anyone else posts and still be passionate about what they believe. The fact that we disagree is what makes this board interesting.

 

[jcw]

If you went to confession it would a week

 

[topDawg]

they own equity in AM and they could very well come up with a codeshare arrangement that easily costs less than what it would cost DL to fly... after all AM is a lower cost carrier.

DL doesn't really need 160-180 seats per flight.... a couple dozen on AM would cost a whole lot less than operating a DL flight.

Of course DL should just turn over its Mexican network to AM - and since you see demons behind every doorknob, DL undoubtedly will.

So your saying that Delta makes so little in Mexico that it can recoup those gains in its 4% ownership of AM?
 
Get off the drugs. 
 
and Yes, just like we are seeing in the Atlantic marketplace its completely possible Delta tries to hand AM more of its flying. 
 

LAXMEX already is a bloodbath with just four carriers. LAXGDL is even worse. 
 
The money in MEX-U.S. market is Miami and Texas. 

If you see Delta in LAX-MEX it will be because they cut back an AM flight. I will bet it will capacity neutral . It would just simply just be to get delta metal into the market. 
1x DL 4x AM is what i would bet on. 

 

[WorldTraveler]

uh, DL is EXPANDING its presence in the Atlantic.

I have told you that DL is expanding its capacity by 12% between the US and AMS/CDG next summer and 6.8% overall across the Atlantic.

since you are convinced you there are demons that are out to get you, there are no facts that can convince you otherwise.

 

[AirLUVer]

the new US-Mexico bilateral goes into effect in about 45 days. You can bet new route announcements will come out in spades over the next few months.

 
I think you need to get your calculator out.  Bi-Lateral goes into affect January 1, 2016, unless 2015 will not exist, you are missing 365 days there.
 
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayinthesky/2014/11/25/us-mexico-to-end-limits-on-transborder-airline-routes/70073840/
 
Now you wonder why everyone doubts you when you say things without citing your sources.

 

[WorldTraveler]

2015 has been cxld due to a lack of interest and because DL has convinced the Obama administration to acceleration the decimation of all other carriers that even think about serving Mexico.

so, there!

 

[eolesen]

That year gives everyone a chance to ramp up their game and line up other JV partners.

WN in particular should be just about done with their migration to Amadeus, and that leaves open the ability for them to do something far bigger than what they had with Volaris. IT doomed that just about as much as the Airtran merger did.

Both oneworld and Star could benefit from a Mexican partner, and it wouldn't surprise me if someone else like Jetblue looked for a codeshare or JV partner.

 

[WorldTraveler]

I'm sure everyone will do all they can to find a Mexican partner but there really is only one Mexican int'l carrier - and they are well committed to DL.