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Acordint to Airliners.net, US will be moving to the satellite terminal in Terminal E.
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This is interesting. The satellite terminal at Terminal E was built at the height of Delta's "Easy Street at DFW" hub and operations. It is actually a nice terminal, connected to Terminal E via underground tunnel and moving sidewalks. The satellite was commonly referred to as "Gilligan's Island" by the Delta employees.
The satellite terminal also had a Delta Crown Room lounge. It would be nice if US Airways could open up a US Airways Club there as the majority of our customers flying into and out of DFW are of the business variety. I would hope that our Dividend Elite Club members would voice to our management that this would be beneficial for both the Customer and the Airline.
When America West changed their fare structure with "Project Shamrock" a few years ago our business from DFW to destinations west literally skyrocketed. Flight frequencies were increased and larger aircraft (757s) were utilized at peak times. As an observant Flight Attendant, it wasn't hard to notice the large number of passengers boarding with "American Airlines Platinum" or "American Airlines Admirals Club" ID cards on their briefcases. With our new business friendly fares we definitely wooed away a lot of customers from the DFW gorilla!
From what I have been told, DFW is one of our highest yield producing cities. Also, I believe that US Airways is now the second largest carrier at DFW behind AA/AA Eagle in terms of flights and passengers carried. With creative flight timing, DFW could also be used as an alternative connecting point for passengers traveling from PHX or LAS to east destinations like PHL, DCA and CLT when nonstop flights in these markets are full.
I am very partial to the success our DFW Operations as this is where I began my career with America West in 1993 as a CSR. I hope that US Airways really goes all out with making this station an ideal place for business travel. It definitely has the potential.
Hardly empty anymore. The gorilla at DFW (ie. American Airlines) wants to take over all of Terminal B where we currently have all of our gates. That will give them all of Terminals A, B, C, and the majority of D (Int'l only). Everyone that was at Terminal B has been or is in the process of being moved to Terminal E. It reminds me somewhat of the "Island of Misfits" on the "Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer Christmas Special!"
Terminal E now houses Frontier, Midwest, Continental, Northwest, Air Tran, Delta, ATA, etc. Most of these airlines were kicked out of Terminal B. The only two airlines that remain in T-B with a significant number of flights are the new US and UAL...and it sounds like our move will be coming soon. AA would like nothing more than to boot us out and the DFW Airport Authority would be glad to help.
The satellite terminal extension of Terminal E would have room for both US and UA/AC and would make a great domestic "Star Alliance" terminal. Lufthansa would be a short train ride away to Terminal D.
I found some photo's to share of the E Satelite Terminal.
Here it is in 1992 when it was all DL Mainline
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0045652/L/
and here is a 2003 photo when it was all DL Connection,
looks like all the Jetway's where removed !
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=150226
I wonder who is paying to have the Jetways installed,
US or the DFW Aiport Authority ?
LGA777
Here it is in 1992 when it was all DL Mainline
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0045652/L/
and here is a 2003 photo when it was all DL Connection,
looks like all the Jetway's where removed !
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=150226
I wonder who is paying to have the Jetways installed,
US or the DFW Aiport Authority ?
LGA777
Thanks for the memories 777. ah the old " if you hurry and get to the gate" run from the ticket counter just really got exciting
N903AW, you are right on the "restructuring" Terminal D, is the new international terminal, plus all of AA's widebody service 'cept for ORD, B will all be Eagle( wasn't B for Braniff??) the the old "Easy Street, terminal 4" is everybody else. I know that when CO moved over last year after their codeshare with DL, the ramp was outsourced to Dal global, so they are together.
I believe the "island" is getting a makeover of new resturants etc...
N903AW, you are right on the "restructuring" Terminal D, is the new international terminal, plus all of AA's widebody service 'cept for ORD, B will all be Eagle( wasn't B for Braniff??) the the old "Easy Street, terminal 4" is everybody else. I know that when CO moved over last year after their codeshare with DL, the ramp was outsourced to Dal global, so they are together.
I believe the "island" is getting a makeover of new resturants etc...
Yeah, this is not particularly good news. Business travelers especially will not be wild about having to do the underground tunnel walk to the satellite. Plus the cost of jetbridges (will U have to pay for all/part of that?) is a concern.
B was not for Braniff, the terminals were renamed in the last decade to make it easier for the Clampitts to find 2W (instead of them going to 2E).
ringmaruf
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That was true at the time of the merger, but they've since dropped PIT-DFW (another casualty of the very reduced EMB-170 utilization thanks to Republic), so I'm not sure if US is still #2 today.
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DFW also had the distinction of going from a contracted ramp to an HP-staffed ramp in 2003. That doesn't happen often. Under IAM representation for f/s, it would still probably qualify for ramp outsourcing.
Business travelers will probably be more keen to an underground tunnel (a WIDE one, with large moving sidewalks) than parking at Terminal C for their outbound AA flight, and when returning arriving at Terminal B. A short walk in the Terminal E tunnel is more appealing than having to ride a train back to their originating terminal to return to their car or a LONG walk via the sky-bridges DFW has erected that connect the west and east sides of the airport. With the vastness and large expanse of DFW, this is a task that does not come without exhaustive effort.
With American's hub at DFW (this applies to local passenger traffic only) it can be a crapshoot as to what terminal you depart from, and so often when you return you arrive at another.
As for the cost of the jetways...I would hope that DFW is absorbing the majority (if not all)of the cost as many of the airline moves from Terminal B to Terminal E have not been voluntary and while long standing leases are still in place.
Do any "DFW" buffs remember when Continental was planted right smack in the middle of DFW Terminal 2E (now Terminal A) with American on both sides of them? This was post-Texas International merger and Continental virtually owned those gates...and would not budge. From what I understand, American had to pay a hefty sum to get Continental to move across the airport to Terminal B to have complete control of Terminal A.
Just a little useless aviation history at DFW for you! LOL
DFW was HP-staffed from it's opening until August 1995. That was when Continental took over both HP customer service and ramp operations with the codeshare synergy program in place. I know, because this is what uprooted me from Texas to transfer to Arizona.
When the synergy was dissolved after Gordon Bethune's displeasure with AWA's "Project Shamrock", AWA eventually restaffed both ramp and customer service with their own personnel. As far as I know, only 1 person from our original DFW group returned. The rest were hired new or transferred in from other stations.
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What was it Gordon said when he discontinued the CO-HP codeshare? To paraphrase, "I refuse to do business with a company that would do something so stupid." Don't forget: "America West will be out of business in a year." Good ol' Gordon Buffoon.
According to posters on the Airliners.net thread, it looks like UAL is going to remain in Terminal B. It appears that they have invested a ton of money for their Red Carpet Club in their present location and the DFW Airport Authority is not willing to provide them the same facilities at Terminal E. So United is staying put. So much for convenient, quick connections between Star Alliance carriers at DFW.
It also appears that any hopes of having a US Airways Club Lounge at DFW are dimming. Looks as if the DFW Airport Authorities want the space of the former Delta Crown Room located there for themselves.
Seems ironic that only a short time ago DFW was willing to give away gates and facilities for any airline willing to fill in what Delta vacated with their DFW downsizing. Now it seems quite the opposite.
Makes me an even more avid supporter of the "Set Love Free" movement to repeal the Wright Amendment at Dallas Love Field.
jimntx
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I admit guys that I'm a little confused by this thread. I was based at DFW before I was furloughed (recalled to STL). I get the impression that posters are using the terms Terminal E and Terminal E satellite interchangeably. Do not do this. Terminal E is just like every other terminal at DFW--semi-circular with approximately 35 gates.
The satellite was never used by any part of Delta other than Delta Connection. You don't see any jetways in that building because there never were any. There were just white canvas canopies that ran from the satellite building to the planes. Just like American Eagle's recently closed satellite north of Terminal A.
And, if I remember correctly from the time I flew DL Connection to Atlanta from DFW, there are no moving sidewalks in that tunnel out to the satellite. You have to walk every step of the way.
Jim, if we can agree to disagree 🙂 , but the satellite at Terminal E DID have jetways when first opened and was utilized heavily by Delta mainline jets. I personally boarded Delta flights, using jetways, from the satellite back in the day. Just look at the first photograph link above taken in 1992 and you will clearly see a flock of Delta MD-88s and Boeing 757s parked at the satellite with jetways attached.
As Delta slowly began downsizing from it's peak hub in the latter 1990s, the jetways were removed and the satellite was used for Delta Connection flights operated by ASA and Comair as you mention above.
The satellite is fully capable and only needs the jetways replaced for it to become ready to handle the big jets once again.
