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USAirways/America West Merger Talks -WSJ

USA320Pilot said:
The merger scenario would require US Airways to find $350 million to $500 million in total new funding,

350-450 million to Bonderman for to get him out of HP, and a million to get US out of Chapter 11.

and possibly to arrange an additional $250 million in loans. According to the Journal report, US Airways is approaching a number of sources, including private equity firms, other regional airlines and its creditors.
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Now we see if Bronner wants to shoot for a billion to play airline, and whether or not Bonderman wants to continue doing so (pretty well) or wants to laugh all the way to the bank.
 
Only a small quibble, Clue....

ClueByFour said:
He might, however, be willing to throw a desperate man (US) a bone (100 million or so) for a fat equity stake and a codeshare. Much like the GECAS deal (taking back the choice assets, getting a huge equity stake, and loan rates that make the local pawn broker look like a saint), he can trade a relatively small amount of money for potentially huge gains, and get a superpriority claim and/or preferred equity if things don't work out.
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As funguy & I discussed briefly in another thread a week or so ago, anything less than a $200 million investment won't get TPG or anyone else more than AirWis or Republic get as far as equity is concerned. Both of those agreements specify that if any other "substantial investor" gets a better deal than they have, they have to be offered the same deal.

$100 million could get a superpriority claim - third dibs behind the ATSB and AirWis - but any kind of preferred equity is also out. Both the AirWis & Republic agreements stipulate only a single class of stock post-BK - no preferred shares carrying extra votes.

Of course, both AirWis and Republic could be bought out (actually, there could be a cheap way to escape the Republic deal), but then we're talking about more than $100 million.

Jim
 
GE is the key player and broker. Separately, the WSJ's Susan Carey is the most in-tune airline news reporter in the entire United States. She has the ability to obtain exclusive reports and to talk directly to every major airline CEO.

The US Airways - America West plan reported in the Journal is similar to the United UCT or ICT, in that the initial United plan would have been to fly under the US Airways brand immediately but keep operations separate, linking the network through code-sharing.

What I find interesting is that US Airways has apparently backed away from United. Why is that?

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 
USA320Pilot said:
GE is the key player and broker.
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Since they've been expressing a desire to reduce their exposure to US for a year now - that was the whole rational behind LOA 91 - it'll be interesting to see this play out.....

Jim
 
USA320Pilot said:
GE is the key player and broker. Separately, the WSJ's Susan Carey is the most in-tune airline news reporter in the entire United States. She has the ability to obtain exclusive reports and to talk directly to every major airline CEO.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
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She's really "in tune" now with Ted Reed here.
 
USA320Pilot said:
GE is the key player and broker.

GE does not control 55% of America West. Bonderman does.

They may be a "broker," but Bonderman will not put a still relatively solid investment with HP at risk. He's already demonstrated that he was unwilling to "bid upwards" on the US franchise. No deal will go forth that does not insure profit for TPG.

Equity in a combined entity certainly does not do that.

Separately, the WSJ's Susan Carey is the most in-tune airline news reporter in the entire United States. She has the ability to obtain exclusive reports and to talk directly to every major airline CEO.
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Pure opinion play, since no reporter would reveal such a thing to anyone in any case.
 
BoeingBoy:

BoeingBoy said: "Since they've been expressing a desire to reduce their exposure to US for a year now - that was the whole rational behind LOA 91 - it'll be interesting to see this play out....."

USA320pilot comments: I agree. However, GE owns about 50% of the combined US Airways - America West fleet. GECAS wants their aircraft in the air and they do not want either airline to fail, thus their interest in the deal. Last Thursday's meeting between Bronner, Lakefield, and Hubschman, along with their IB's and most likely with J.P. Morgan's IB's, likely focused on this point.

Meanwhile, on April 11 America West CEO Doug Parker told Susan Carey that it is naive for airlines to hope that GE will do anything but look our fot its own interests.

According to the WSJ report, "And those interests aren't entirely aligned with those of (all) carriers, says Bill Warlick, an airline debt analyst at Fitch Ratings."

Also noteworthy, Fitch Rating was retained by the ATSB to audit all loan guarantee applications. Moreover, Warlick directly reviewed the US Airways and America West applications.

Meanwhile, the Journal noted, GE's interest is "in keeping as much capacity in the air as possible because so much of their lease exposure is in the U.S.," Mr. Warlick says. A big airline liquidation would be bad for GE, he says, because it would flood the market with planes and drive down lease rates.

Mr. Hubschaum says there may be some overcapacity in the U.S. industry, "but it's not clear to me that simply a liquidation is the answer." If 200 or 300 planes were grounded by an airline failure, stronger companies such as Southwest and JetBlue Airways would lease or buy more planes from willing manufacturers and expand, he says.

"Do you think Airbus is going to sit there when somebody calls them up, or Boeing, and say, "No, we won't sell to you?", he ask rhetorically, the WSJ noted.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 
Eye:

Is Ted Reed an airline reporter or does he work for an airline Employee Communications Department?

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 
USA320Pilot said:
Meanwhile, on April 11 America West CEO Doug Parker told Susan Carey that it is naive for airlines to hope that GE will do anything but look our fot its own interests.
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Which is my point. I suspect that GE would be more than happy to do whatever is necessary to insure an orderly reduction in it's exposure to US - whether it was in the long term best interests of this company or not - as long as it didn't increase their exposure in the process.

Jim
 
Clue:

I'm curious, have you ever made a positive post regarding US Airways? Why are you so bitter towards the company with an obvious "ax to grind"? What's behind your bitterness since you're a passenger?

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 
BoeingBoy:

You might be right and you're not the first person to make that point. But, but I am now getting the feeling that’s not what is happening here. I believe GE is looking for a way to keep both US Airways and America West flying because fuel prices are effecting the business plan(s) so much. I understand that GE was instrumental in the ATSB providing US Airways funds until June 30 because of the active M&A discussions. Moreover, Carey reported on April 11 “GE has been a strong business partner with high expectations for US Airways. The consistently make sound decisions that further our mutual interests,â€￾ a US Airways spokesman said.

Nonetheless, it will be interesting watching this play out.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 
USA320Pilot said:
Moreover, Carey reported on April 11 “GE has been a strong business partner with high expectations for US Airways.
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Interesting that she put that in the past tense instead of saying that "GE is a strong ......". A hint of GE's disillusionment perhaps?

To quote our esteemed Chairman, our executives "are more than happy to go back to playing golf as opposed to running an airline that is extremely difficult".

Forbe's Article

Jim
 
BoeingBoy:

I believe you're taking Carey's article out of context because you cannot see the whole column.

The article also said, "GE also had to consider the fates of regional carriers who fly on behalf of US Airways with GE-provided planes. And it needed US Airways' other lenders, including the federal government, to grant further forbearance, as well as additional concessions from the carrier's unions," which was obtained.

Regardless, as I have repeatedly said for the past couple of years US Airways has been in M&A talks and desired to be the surviving business entity. For example, the company wanted to buy all or parts of United, keep the US Airways branding in place, and use the United name for market identity.

Now it appears if an America West deal is completed, the US Airways brand/name could remain in place and America West management would make up most of the company's leadership. The question is: who would be the CEO?

What I find interesting is that US Airways seems to have moved away from United even though Glenn Tilton keeps publicly telling reporters he believes United needs to merge. Why is that? Meanwhile, today's United company code-a-phone has an interesting message regarding employee relations. To listen to the call dial 800-EYE-ON-UA.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 
Doug Parker is a great CEO. And the VP in res Joe Beery is tops in our book. U would be really lucky if they got these 2 to run things. Those of here in res also like our top management. I can't begin to tell you how great things are here. Less money but much happier. Hey you west coast res agents===come back to Reno.
 

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