We all need a little humor every now and then.

[2BlacknBlue]

"Campbell said Northwest employees are “embracing the Delta culture,â€￾ which he said focuses on “taking care of the people.â€￾"

 

[dapoes]

"Campbell said Northwest employees are “embracing the Delta culture,â€￾ which he said focuses on “taking care of the people.â€￾"

Theres a lot of truth to that.

 

[2BlacknBlue]

Theres a lot of truth to that.

Do ya mean that you favor having a little humor in our lives or that "Delta has paid us a premium to remain non union?"

 

[dapoes]

I firmly believe that "the threat of a union is better than actually having a union". As far as being a FA, we could have chosen a union years ago, but chose not to. We dont need no stinkin AFA.

 

[2BlacknBlue]

C'mon dapoes...threatening a "delta family member" with a union is not part of the "Delta Culture" you all talk about, is it?

It sounds dysfunctional.

 

[dapoes]

C'mon dapoes...threatening a "delta family member" with a union is not part of the "Delta Culture" you all talk about, is it?

It sounds dysfunctional.

Err you dont quite understand how to interpret that statement do you? Nobody is threatening anyone dear.

 

[2BlacknBlue]

Err you dont quite understand how to interpret that statement do you? Nobody is threatening anyone dear.

Naaaaa, let me clarify my statement. In other words, what kind of a Delta family relationship can you have if YOU have to threaten your employer (Delta) with a union? Is "the threat of a union is better than actually having a union" to get what you want-part of the Delta culture?

 

[dapoes]

Naaaaa, let me clarify my statement. In other words, what kind of a Delta family relationship can you have if YOU have to threaten your employer (Delta) with a union? Is "the threat of a union is better than actually having a union" to get what you want-part of the Delta culture?

:blink: You still aren't getting it. Heres a hint...the threat of a union isnt coming from non union workers.

Corporations across any unionized industry always keep in mind that their labor force could succomb to to union representation. That is the threat. The better you treat labor then the less need there is for a union in the minds of the labor force. Make sense?

 

[Airlinelifer]

:blink: You still aren't getting it. Heres a hint...the threat of a union isnt coming from non union workers.

Corporations across any unionized industry always keep in mind that their labor force could succomb to to union representation. That is the threat. The better you treat labor then the less need there is for a union in the minds of the labor force. Make sense?

With ALPA, DL and NW pilots had no interference at all. With the Dispatchers, DL has had over 4 decades of working with the Dispatchers union. No fuss, no mess, just let us (DL mgmnt) know when you guys decide on your union representitive.

Now we get to the IAM and AFA. WHOA their little doggie, you can't mess with our "culture". So does "culture" mean one thing in one department and something completly different in another?

 

[dapoes]

With ALPA, DL and NW pilots had no interference at all. With the Dispatchers, DL has had over 4 decades of working with the Dispatchers union. No fuss, no mess, just let us (DL mgmnt) know when you guys decide on your union representitive.

Now we get to the IAM and AFA. WHOA their little doggie, you can't mess with our "culture". So does "culture" mean one thing in one department and something completly different in another?

Culture of being non union and liking it perhaps?

 

[Dignity]

Culture of being non union and liking it perhaps?

you know to me, culture would basically represent,

well!

reading from the same page, being a team, working together as a team to insure safety first and service remains high at all times... to suggest that culture is brought about by being "non-union" seems sort of silly to me when other groups in the "culture" are unionized..(does that make sense?) 🙂

all employees are under the same roof..you know,

so!

the culture should be something completely different and an identity each individual should feel and relate to regardless of being unionized or non-unionized.

what I am basically saying, the culture should not change either way,

if it truly exist..

 

[dapoes]

you know to me, culture would basically represent,

well!

reading from the same page, being a team, working together as a team to insure safety first and service remains high at all times... to suggest that culture is brought about by being "non-union" seems sort of silly to me when other groups in the "culture" are unionized..(does that make sense?) 🙂

all employees are under the same roof..you know,

so!

the culture should be something completely different and an identity each individual should feel and relate to regardless of being unionized or non-unionized.

what I am basically saying, the culture should not change either way,

if it truly exist..

Or maybe its just as simple as Yogurt? :huh:

 

[Dignity]

Or maybe its just as simple as Yogurt? :huh:

personally would not relate that to a food item, but I sort of think I see what you are implying. :blink: is that referring to making a simple yogurt or the ingredients or the actual yogurt cultures? anyway...

re-read what I wrote and then t-h-i-n-k about it!

 

[Dignity]

So does "culture" mean one thing in one department and something completly different in another?

I would say no. its all the same for everyone.

I personally feel unionization or non-unionization is a separate issue all-together aside from the "culture". (or it should be)

 

[Dignity]

"the threat of a union is better than actually having a union" to get what you want

I have actually heard that and read that online from some DL people, but I tend to feel that is probably just some personal opinions and ideas that would not necessarily be the case overall..

because I certainly could not embrace the idea of using the 'threat of unionizing' in order to get something someone may want. because that is not truly working together for greater good of all.

if that is what they are actually doing to get raises and improvements.. to me, that is worse than actually just going in and negotiating in good faith with each other..but of course that is just my opinion.

for the most part I would hope that regardless of the final outcome..management and employees work together going forward focusing on customers and communities while supporting the employees (and ultimately each other).. its time for that to be more of the norm.. but well,

that is what I hope..