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FlyOnWall

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FAempowered- MDA flight attendants

All Midatlantic flight attendants need to join this yahoo group

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We are MidAtlantic Flight Attendants (Furloughed from Mainline US Airways) and we have been flying in violation of the US Airways mainline AFA contract.

We are fighting for our mainline wages and our union dues since we do not have proper representation from our present union. Only mainline flight attendants are eligible to work on any and all planes flown under the mainline FAA flight operator’s certificate, which includes safety, food and beverage service and the privilege of occupying a jump seat.

We have been flying under the mainline flight certificate since MAA lost the Potomac FAA flight operator's certificate due to non-compliance with minority held companies (Potomac Air was granted an operating certificate as a minority run airline). It was at this point we should have been recognized for what we truly are - MAINLINE FA's. We possess a mainline emergency manual, are trained by mainline standards and are qualified to work on all of the mainline fleet. The only difference is the pay scale and benefit package we have received from MAA. Our friends senior to us that have returned to 'mainline' get no credit for time served at MAA towards their seniority or retirement. Lets act now to stop these injustices.
 
Potomac Air was never owned by Robert Johnson, it was owned by US Airways Group and used planes from Piedmont.
 
700UW said:
Potomac Air was never owned by Robert Johnson, it was owned by US Airways Group and used planes from Piedmont.
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Beside the point - the company has crossed many many lines here and has violated and falsified information to abuse workforce therefore leaving us no other option to seeks assistance elsewhere. Sad but true -
 
MidAtlantic Flight Attendants have not been flying in violation of the US Airways Mainline Contract.

While the Company and MidAtlantic AFA continue to finalize issues in the current Amercian Eagle Contract (which has Mainline incorporations), the agreement that we reached with the Company is in force and effect, although not signed and printed.

If it was not in effect, MAA AFA would not have been able to file a grievance on behalf of it's members, regarding the Republic transaction, to seek leagal remedy for the MidAtlantic Flight Attendants.

The silly antics of signing up for this nonsense, should certainly be at the back of the proverbial burner on all MAA FLight Attendant's stoves. What should be the main focus is the fact that HP is submitting an agenda item at the BOD to change the AFA Constitution and By Laws that are currently in place, stating that the merger policy of date of hire be amended.

Try using your energy and what small amount of brain matter that you have and try directing it to saving your position as a furloughed Mainline Flight Attendant with your original Date of Hire. Rally around supporting the Union, instead of destroying it. The company doesn't give a damn about your date of hire....the Union does. There is strength in numbers.

When will you people realize that?
 
MAABoss said:
Try using your energy and what small amount of brain matter that you have and try directing it to saving your position as a furloughed Mainline Flight Attendant with your original Date of Hire.  Rally around supporting the Union, instead of destroying it.  The company doesn't give a damn about your date of hire....the Union does.  There is strength in numbers.


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Seems to me that they are using thier energy to get rid of y- , I mean the MAA AFA president. You're right about strength in numbers!

If you don't like what they are doing, why don't you just say nasty things about them like a third grader...? :rolleyes:
 
xoxo said:
If they were not in violation..then why did a lawyer decide to take it to court along with the pilots???
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Because lawyers know how to make money. Most are not the ambulance chasers you see on TV. They get paid win or lose.
 
MAABoss said:
MidAtlantic Flight Attendants have not been flying in violation of the US Airways Mainline Contract.

While the Company and MidAtlantic AFA continue to finalize issues in the current Amercian Eagle Contract (which has Mainline incorporations), the agreement that we reached with the Company is in force and effect, although not signed and printed.

If it was not in effect, MAA AFA would not have been able to file a grievance on behalf of it's members, regarding the Republic transaction, to seek leagal remedy for the MidAtlantic Flight Attendants.

The silly antics of signing up for this nonsense, should certainly be at the back of the proverbial burner on all MAA FLight Attendant's stoves. What should be the main focus is the fact that HP is submitting an agenda item at the BOD to change the AFA Constitution and By Laws that are currently in place, stating that the merger policy of date of hire be amended.

Try using your energy and what small amount of brain matter that you have and try directing it to saving your position as a furloughed Mainline Flight Attendant with your original Date of Hire. Rally around supporting the Union, instead of destroying it. The company doesn't give a damn about your date of hire....the Union does. There is strength in numbers.

When will you people realize that?
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As we say in the flight attendant business (if you can think that far back when you were actually flying)... B-bye!
 
DCAflyer said:
As we say in the flight attendant business (if you can think that far back when you were actually flying)... B-bye!
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For god's sake, try to stay on topic.......
 
Fly on Wall,

No longevity i whatEwas negotiated during BK threat and BK. Everyone is subject to negotiated, ratified provisions. Those who wanted work from the INVOL list chose MAA with the agreement (Am. Eagle) work rules, benefits and wages. The Committee was able to d obetter in the wage arena, but no longevity for pay purposes or step increases.

You must have known when you signed on MAA that you many have been their for years collecting longevity at MAA, but on seniority for bid purposes at Mainline.

This is furlough langauge. Some very junior f/as were able to be saved by the VF all the way down to 5 year seniority, but not everyone.

Again jobs were offered at MAA. YOu didn't have to go there and you should have read the Am. Eagle contract on the websites as they applied to MAA.
 
xoxo said:
If they were not in violation..then why did a lawyer decide to take it to court along with the pilots???
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Lawyers didn't decide to take the issue of "Asset sale" Vs. Change of control to court...YOUR UNION LEADERSHIP DID AND HIRED THE ATTORNEYS FOR THE CHALLENGE IN ARBITRTION.

The MEC arbitration case has to do with f/as going with the a/c to Republic Airways, has nothing to do with wages, work rules, benefits, longevity or seniority.
 
FlyOnWall said:
FAempowered- MDA flight attendants

All Midatlantic flight attendants need to join this yahoo group

Description
We are MidAtlantic Flight Attendants (Furloughed from Mainline US Airways) and we have been flying in violation of the US Airways mainline AFA contract.

We are fighting for our mainline wages and our union dues since we do not have proper representation from our present union. Only mainline flight attendants are eligible to work on any and all planes flown under the mainline FAA flight operator’s certificate, which includes safety, food and beverage service and the privilege of occupying a jump seat.

We have been flying under the mainline flight certificate since MAA lost the Potomac FAA flight operator's certificate due to non-compliance with minority held companies (Potomac Air was granted an operating certificate as a minority run airline). It was at this point we should have been recognized for what we truly are - MAINLINE FA's. We possess a mainline emergency manual, are trained by mainline standards and are qualified to work on all of the mainline fleet. The only difference is the pay scale and benefit package we have received from MAA. Our friends senior to us that have returned to 'mainline' get no credit for time served at MAA towards their seniority or retirement. Lets act now to stop these injustices.
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Great post, FlyonWall! The flippant replies to your post reveal perfectly why this new website is needed. If our union "representation" is content to throw us to the wolves, and not even give us a copy of our contract, but still send me a bill (!) then we need to stand up for ourselves! (By the way, that bill is at the bottom of my pile, because at this salary and pay rules that were negotiated, frankly, I can't afford it)
 
Capt Morgan said:
Because lawyers know how to make money. Most are not the ambulance chasers you see on TV. They get paid win or lose.
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THEY GET PAID WIN OR LOSE?

Wow! That sounds like your company, Republic/Chautauqua whatever you want to call it... they get paid guaranteed profit no matter what! Must be nice... too bad none of you are seeing the rewards.

Oh, that's right, if they paid the crews well you couldn't keep your costs low enough to scab the airlines real employees out of a job.
 
Light Years said:
THEY GET PAID WIN OR LOSE?

Wow! That sounds like your company, Republic/Chautauqua whatever you want to call it... they get paid guaranteed profit no matter what! Must be nice... too bad none of you are seeing the rewards.

Oh, that's right, if they paid the crews well you couldn't keep your costs low enough to scab the airlines real employees out of a job.
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Good point. Very witty, but also true. Except the Scab part. You are too emotionally involved to know that you sound like an idiot throwing around terms that don't apply. When did USAirways go on strike? Was that last week? I'm sorry I was busy last week I must have missed that.
 
Not technically a scab, but the same idea, really.

I sure remember CHQ pilots being upset when Republic was to be a non-union 145 carrier to replace "thier" flying, and the US pilots stepping in to help. Guess you guys don't.

Too emotionally involved? How dare you! These are people's lives here, thier families, finances and homes... some of these people have been with the company for over a decade. Ridiculing that just proves the case against you.