What's in Phx's future?

[laxtwin]

I've seen postings regarding PHL and CLT but has anything leaked about how Sky Harbor would change as a result of the merger?

 

[Flying Titan]

With the introduction of DL's widebodies into the US network, it's likely that PHX will see new int'l routes - Europe and Asia.

 

[flyingcat]

With the introduction of DL's widebodies into the US network, it's likely that PHX will see new int'l routes - Europe and Asia.

Only a DL 777 could make it to Europe and shifting them off of ATL or JFK would be a hard sell. PHX will have to wait for the 350 or the 787. When one of those comes around then I would bet on LGW and FRA(assuming Star member)

 

[Flying Titan]

Only a DL 777 could make it to Europe and shifting them off of ATL or JFK would be a hard sell. PHX will have to wait for the 350 or the 787. When one of those comes around then I would bet on LGW and FRA(assuming Star member)

True about the need for 777s, but some of the ATL/JFK to Europe routes would be fine w/ 767s that are now in domestic use.

 

[FlyUs]

Does anyone know what DP said about the future of LAS? Even now I'm not sure if Vegas is considered a hub or a focus city?

 

[flyingcat]

LAS has always been a great place to run aircraft at night that otherwise would be doing nothing. I'm sure DP would continue to use it in such a fashion.

 

[HPearlyretiree]

Didn't LTU run 767's from DUS to PHX?

PHX could certainly support a flight to CDG and FRA.

And a 4x a week to Asia would be loaded with cargo both ways, and with good feed would do well.

There is room for one more pier on the N side of Terminal 4 if I recall correctly, that would add another 12 gates or so.

 

[USA320Pilot]

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[ClueByFour]

PHX would see FRA, and FRA only. CDG does not warrant the year round connection opportunities to LH, which is the key.

 

[hp_fa]

Folks, you are way, way ahead of yourselves. Might I suggest you worry about what you are going to bid or non-rev after the creditors and the court decide on who will control whatever Delta emerges from reorganization.

 

[N903AW]

Didn't LTU run 767's from DUS to PHX?

Yes, they flew once a week service from PHX to DUS with 767-300s and then later upgraded to MD-11s. Those flights were always packed, too! Germans LOVE Arizona and the great Southwest!

 

[AstroLounge]

Folks, you are way, way ahead of yourselves. Might I suggest you worry about what you are going to bid or non-rev after the creditors and the court decide on who will control whatever Delta emerges from reorganization.

Bravo! Thank you for a sane post. Why don't we sit back and digest the possible merger before this mess gets off the ground. Enjoy Thanksgiving while you are at it, I am sure Parker made the holidays pretty miserable for the other half of the equation. This poker game is JUST BEGINNING....

 

[HPearlyretiree]

Yes, they flew once a week service from PHX to DUS with 767-300s and then later upgraded to MD-11s. Those flights were always packed, too! Germans LOVE Arizona and the great Southwest!

Yes, they love coming out when it is the hottest and most desolate.

I wish the LTU flights lasted, but they were only a few days a week. Maybe LH will come back.

If the merger goes through, there will be a lot more traffic in PHX, which is good.

When the anti airport noise folks were whining, Sky Harbor put out a great ad, "It would be a LOT more quiet without us!"

 

[UPNAWAY]

This is fun albeit premature specualtion but I could see a combined airline where PHX eventual looks a lot like ATL except feeding the Pacific Rim. That might be 1o years down the road but ATL & PHX as the main international hubs, "Int. focus cities" in LAX and the PHL/NY area. Could be sweet!

 

[FCYTravis]

The DL 767-300ERs could easily make Europe from PHX. FRA and LGW would be nice.