Yet Another Liberal Lie

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

http://oklahomawatch.org/2014/02/01/oklahoma-no-7-in-reliance-on-federal-funds/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2011/11/21/fox-news-viewers-uninformed-npr-listeners-not-poll-suggests/

 

 

[Dog Wonder]

Flunk math?

 

[Dog Wonder]

Moocher states.

http://www.salon.com/2014/09/20/10_red_states_that_mooch_off_the_federal_government_partner/

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Biased.
 
Where do they list the BLUE states that mooch?

 

[777 fixer]

Biased.
 
Where do they list the BLUE states that mooch?

 
Read the article.  Then look up the states with the highest poverty levels.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

From the article linked above:

"Earlier this year, the personal finance website WalletHub.com conducted an in-depth study of the amounts individual states are paying in federal taxes compared to the amounts they are receiving. WalletHub analyzed data from the Internal Revenue Service, the U.S. Census Bureau, the U.S. Commerce Department and the Bureau of Labor Statistics. WalletHubs research demonstrates that, as a rule, the states that are the most likely to rail against big government are the most likely to be benefiting from it.

WalletHubs research bears out comparable figures released by the nonpartisan Tax Foundation in the past: analyzing IRS data, Tax Foundation has found, more than once, that red states are likely to be the biggest recipients of federal tax money."


To be fair, those red states have high poverty, but also have big government institutions like Stennis Space Center and the shipyards in MS, NASA in AL, Federal prisons and major military in KY, etc.

This is a result of the years of earmark spending. Having very senior members of congress from your state leading important committees was key to bringing home the bacon to your state. MS, AL, KY all had very powerful delegations. All were republican.

That said, they did not do much to get the masses in their states off of poverty. They did manage to get more federal dollars to the state than was paid in taxes.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

I think one thing that is being overlooked here is many of those Red states receiving federal funds are mostly rural and have huge amounts of farmland. It is easy to skew the numbers when you have one farmer and a bunch of "undocumented" workers receiving millions in farm subsidies.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

"Take a look at the difference between federal spending on any given state and the federal taxes received from that state. We measure the difference as a dollar amount: Federal Spending per Dollar of Federal Taxes. A figure of $1.00 means that particular state received as much as it paid in to the federal government. Anything over a dollar means the state received more than it paid; anything less than $1.00 means the state paid more in taxes than it received in services. The higher the figure, the more a given state is a welfare queen.

Of the twenty worst states, 16 are either Republican dominated or conservative states. Let's go through the top twenty."

New Mexico: $2.03
Mississippi: $2.02
Alaska: $1.84
Louisiana: $1.78
West Virginia: $1.76
North Dakota: $1.68
Alabama: $1.66
South Dakota: $1.53
Kentucky: $1.51
Virginia: $1.51
Montana: $1.47
Hawaii: $1.44
Maine: $1.41
Arkansas: $1.41
Oklahoma: $1.36
South Carolina: $1.35
Missouri: $1.32
Maryland: $1.30
Tennessee: $1.27
Idaho: $1.21


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-are-welfare-queens-2011-8#ixzz3E36cq6Z1

 

[delldude]

Moocher states.

http://www.salon.com/2014/09/20/10_red_states_that_mooch_off_the_federal_government_partner/

 
Wouldn't be moochers if dems got off their asses and cut entitlements and had those same back on the tax rolls paying into the kitty.

 

[Dog Wonder]

I think one thing that is being overlooked here is many of those Red states receiving federal funds are mostly rural and have huge amounts of farmland. It is easy to skew the numbers when you have one farmer and a bunch of "undocumented" workers receiving millions in farm subsidies.

 
And you started a thread on liberal lies.

"Take a look at the difference between federal spending on any given state and the federal taxes received from that state. We measure the difference as a dollar amount: Federal Spending per Dollar of Federal Taxes. A figure of $1.00 means that particular state received as much as it paid in to the federal government. Anything over a dollar means the state received more than it paid; anything less than $1.00 means the state paid more in taxes than it received in services. The higher the figure, the more a given state is a welfare queen.

Of the twenty worst states, 16 are either Republican dominated or conservative states. Let's go through the top twenty."

New Mexico: $2.03
Mississippi: $2.02
Alaska: $1.84
Louisiana: $1.78
West Virginia: $1.76
North Dakota: $1.68
Alabama: $1.66
South Dakota: $1.53
Kentucky: $1.51
Virginia: $1.51
Montana: $1.47
Hawaii: $1.44
Maine: $1.41
Arkansas: $1.41
Oklahoma: $1.36
South Carolina: $1.35
Missouri: $1.32
Maryland: $1.30
Tennessee: $1.27
Idaho: $1.21


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-are-welfare-queens-2011-8#ixzz3E36cq6Z1

In 2012, the top 10 agricultural producing States, in terms of cash receipts were (in descending order): California, Iowa, Nebraska, Texas, Minnesota, Illinois, Kansas, Wisconsin, Indiana, and North Carolina. These and related statistics can be found in ERS's Farm Income and Wealth Statistics.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

Yes Dog, he starts a thread titled "Yet Another Liberal Lie", then proceeds to post factual information proving himself wrong.
 
Next, he is going to use some more statistics to prove that only sheep believe or rely on statistics. 

 

[delldude]

Any stats on how many dems have their hands out in those affected states you list?

 

[Dog Wonder]

We are talking self-reliant Red states here.

 

[delldude]

So no dems sucking on the Obama teat in any of them?
 

 

 

[delldude]

 

 
 
 
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