AMFA Organizing Drive to Replace Association

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  1. TWU informer

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    The Association Appreciates your support and loyalty
    See PDF File

    http://www.amfa-aa.com/pdf/TWU_LM2.pdf
     
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  2. swamt

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    Can't let it go. And none of you at AA should. We have to keep stopping HIS and others agendas. They want you to get tired of the BS and stop fighting them in order to claim victory at the end. Don't let them win.
     
  3. swamt

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    Do you really think they need to send help? Your such a moron.

    And so now you talk down and call names as you called out before about other folks. Hypocritical you are. HELLOOO...
     
  4. TopCat870

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    The salary info is comparable to a management job with that responsibility, I dont personally have an issue with it if they are doing the job correctly.

    We should be posting the salary and bonuses of the company/management, they are the ones responsible for dragging this out.

    If the card drive is focused on blaming everyone else including Fleet Service, TWU, IAM etc (no mention of management) you can count me out. I would focus on what AMFA can do better. You must admit, they lost brake rides, have only 5 weeks of vacation, low AMT to airplane ratio. So it's not all Rose's over there either.
     
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  5. 1986Mekanic

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    I disagree, no doubt AA management shoulders blame but,,,,I think part of the blame for lack of a deal also rests with the association leadership.
     
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  6. ThirdSeatHero

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    Congratulations AA MX on your drive for better representation.

    I'm a little late in finding this thread but I'd like to offer a bit of perspective if I may ....

    I was part of 4 failed attempts to bring AMFA onboard prior to our success in 2003 - 99% of the opposing commentary you're reading on this, and adjacent threads is exactly the same mis-information drivel / fear mongering as we heard at UAL when trying to bring on AMFA.

    Heres hoping to see you go AMFA in 2020!
     
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  7. ThirdSeatHero

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    Simply put - its not really necessary.

    For example - Horizon Air MX started a drive, collected sufficient cards, and AMFA National didnt become aware until Horizon MX dropped them off seeking an election.

    AMFA won

    http://www.amfanational.org/index.cfm?zone=/unionactive/view_article.cfm&homeID=767686
     
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  8. swamt

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    So when will UAL mechs go back to AMFA, like Horizon did, after the teamsters failed to get ANY of their promises to come to fruitrition??? Hasn't been long enough for you guys too???
     
  9. swamt

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    That has to be the best spoon feeding I have seen in a long, long time. Great job. Keep up the good work.
     
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  10. 1986Mekanic

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    I agree in part, I would like to see a drive focused on what they can do better. I think they're saying they can get us a deal with better results faster given the fact the negotiation will be about M&R vs all the other title groups the ass is currently trying to figure out what to do with. In addition I think they are saying that Sito seems to be calling the shots when he has a minority of the members.

    I think brake rides are a forgone conclusion. The company has been trying to get those away from mechanics at hubs for as long as I can remember and I think they will succeed this negotiation cycle no matter who does the deal.

    I believe your questions regarding headcount and vacations are valid. But, I think most people could care less, they just want to ditch the association irregardless of the consequences because they see the ass as being consequential right now as we lose money each and every month theta they fail to reach a deal..
     
  11. 1986Mekanic

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    BTW, I don't like how this site is now posting adds right in the middle of our posts.
     
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  12. Vortilon

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    Funny, I haven't seen any blaming of Fleet Svc for anything since the AMFA drive began. As far as SWA is concerned, the low AMT to A/C ratio has been that way since the airline start up - long before the AMFA was on the property there. At this point AMT to A/C ratios don't help my paycheck or anybody else's for that matter. We have enjoyed the lowest pay and absolute worst benefits in the industry for 99% of my 34 years with the firm, but we have 100 AMTs for every A/C! Yay... Piss on the headcount guilt trip! Company made a fair offer to maintain the highest levels in the industry, that's plenty good for everyone I hear talking about it.
     
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  13. 1986Mekanic

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    Good point and thanks for chiming in. SWA had a low mechanic to airplane ratio long before the AMFA got there. I wonder if it could be said that they have improved that ratio during their tenure?

    And your other point regarding worst benefits and pay during your tenure here at AA is well taken and another great point. It seems your saying that high headcount has done nothing for us except water down our compensation package. Agreed.

    But, I would also say that if we want this to be a successful drive, we want to make sure to protect our current check lines and strive to bring some back into the country?
     
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  14. La Li Lu Le Lo

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    That is all I have been saying, that mechanics need to stop with the "coattail riding" comments and focus on their goal.I come on here all the time and see certain mechanics (TWU Informer I am looking at you) throwing shade at Fleet. For all the talk of getting a UNION to represent class and craft some on here put a lot of focus on the wrong things......... and the wrong people.

    I agree but I think your comment is going to fall on deaf ears.
     
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  15. La Li Lu Le Lo

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    Indeed. The mechanics have sold out their own pay and benefits to maintain headcount and now they want to blame everyone and everything but their previous vote.

    Same thing I have been saying for YEARS. TWU may have encouraged the vote to maximize dues but ultimately mechanics did it to themselves.
     
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