Audit Complete Amfa To File

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  1. TWU informer

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    AMFA to FILE PDF


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    Peanut Butter Jelly, Peanut Butter Jelly, Peanut Butter Jelly, and a Letter from Terry Harvey.

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  2. Raptor

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    Well it looks like AMFA will be filing next week I bet CIO is surprised, if I only had a nickle for every time he said we would never get enough cards. :lol: :lol:

    What do you have to say now CIO :lol: :lol: :lol:

    AMFA is coming
     
  3. TWU informer

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    I can't wait to hear CIO and TWUer's answer to this one!
     

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    The Concept of “Craft or Classâ€￾

    This is Federal Legal concept “Craft or Classâ€￾

    In accordance with the Railway Labor Act, the Federal Government has decided that certain work groups have a mutuality of interest at the bargaining table and in advancing worker related issues, and that groups outside of that particular craft or class should have no participation in how the union is run or at least in the initial decision as to who represents that work group. And so Pilots vote with Pilots, and Flight Attendants as matter of law are prohibited from voting with the Pilots. And in turn, the Pilots are prohibited by law from voting with the Flight Attendants because they are considered to be in different Craft or Classes by the National Mediation Board. And Mechanic and Related Workers within the Airline Industry are entitled by law to vote just amongst themselves.

    Supporters of the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association (AMFA) believe that it comprises our mission to remain associated within a union structure with other crafts or classes that according to Federal Government do NOT share our mutuality of interest. The mission is further compromised when we remain associated with other crafts or classes within the union structure of “majority ruleâ€￾ and our particular craft or class is the minority in size. The Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association (AMFA) is the only union in this current debate at American Airlines that says “We will forbid ourselvesâ€￾, it will be unconstitutional for us to go and represent baggage handlers, flight attendants, or passenger service clerks, and we will not let ourselves do that because this would compromise our mission. We wish the baggage handlers and other crafts or classes on the property the very best, but they cannot pick our pockets, we wish them to get the very best on their own, but they should no longer be allowed to ride on our backs. In other words, it is time for the airline industry to decouple the mechanic vs. baggage handler pay and benefit structure. It is suffice to say that since deregulation of the airline industry which since enactment has created enormous competition and pressure on airline ticket pricing, and that has resulted in the craft or class of mechanic and related workers suffering in economic buying power, and especially when compared to the Pilots and Flight Attendants who at American belong to craft specific unions. In the mid 1970’s, the Flight Attendants of American Airlines were also represented by the Transport Workers Union of American (TWU), and just as the mechanics today seek a change to a craft specific union, they also left the TWU in favor of the independent Association of Professional Flight Attendants (APFA) The craft or class of Mechanic and Related at American Airlines can no longer afford to remain in an organization that advocates a linking of different work groups that according to law do not share a mutuality of interest.

    Regardless of good or bad economic times, and regardless of whether the union is negotiating concessions to prevent a bankruptcy filing or negotiating from economic growth with corporate profits, the formula by which the economic pie is divided amongst the union membership is a union decision. The recent concessions are a clear case in point, because American Airlines was demanding $620 Million in concessions from the TWU, but how those give backs were divided up was a union decision, not a company decision. And the facts are clear, that the craft or class of Mechanic and Related at American took more than our fair share of that amount, and it is also clear this was a union decision.


    AMFA IS THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR SKILLED TECHNICIANS
     
  7. TWU informer

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    You could hear a pin drop!
     
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    Peanut Butter Jelly, Peanut Butter Jelly, Peanut Butter Jelly, and a Letter from Terry Harvey.
     
  9. Checking it Out

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    If I read this one sentence, it suggest amfa expect's to file,

    The Association fully expects to file for a representational dispute/election within the next two weeks.

    It would not surprise me the longer you wait the less likely you will file! And their is no surprises from me! Also I believe I hit the nail on the head in this statement!

    Well here it is Thursday night and the clock is ticking down. The count is progressing and a number of cards have been rejected and some new ones have come in. It has started to heat up between Amfa organizers and Amfa national. Word has it that the correct numbers are in Question! Amfa national wants to wait for more cards and the organizers want to file with what they have.

    Word has it, the line stations are angry with the Tulsa and MCI organizers. The word is the same rhetoric. Apparently Dave and Don are attempting to dictate. The line stations are feeling left out of the loop. They want answers.

    As the clock ticks down, they both will have to decide if they can file and when. The date so far is Monday the 8th. Will this happen? Will Amfa have the energy to go out and collected the needed cards? This is the last opportunity the organizers will have for years to come!


    The plot thickens!


    Note lack of a definite date and numbers? Also suggest division between National-Tulsa and Line wannabes!
     
  10. Hopeful

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    March 31, 2003







    James C. Little

    Administrative Vice President, Air Transport Division

    Transport Workers Union of America, AFL-CIO

    1791 Hurstview Dr.

    Hurst, Texas 76054





    Re: Summary of the 2003 Contract changes



    This will confirm our understanding reached during the negotiations leading up to the agreement signed on (DOS), 2003. During these negotiations, we discussed many changes intended to achieve sustained long-term financial relief from the current provisions of the TWU labor agreements. This letter is intended to recap the majority of the agreed upon changes. Changes are listed by Title groups: I (Mechanics and Related), II (Facilities, Automotive, Cabin Cleaners, Utility and Building Cleaners), III (Fleet Service), IV (Fuelers), V (Stock Clerks), T/S (Technical Specials), Disp (Dispatch), Metro (Meteorologists), Sim Techs (Simulator Technicians) and Instrs (Ground School and Pilot Instructors).



    Pay Related

    Effective May 1, 2003:

    § Base wage pay reduction, varying percentages (all groups)

    § Elimination of all longevity pay(I & II)

    § Modified longevity pay, start after 17 years, current rates (III, IV, V,T/S)

    § Reduced Sim Tech Coordinator premium by $.75/hour

    § Reduced Sim Tech Skill pay to $.10/hour

    § Reduced Pilot Simulator Instructors premium to $10.00/month

    § Reduced Ground School/Pilot Simulator Instructors standardization coordinator pay to $150.00/month

    § Reduced Pilot/Simulator Instructors work unit experience premium

    § Modified shift differential to $.01, $.02, $.03 (I, II, III, V, T/S, Sim Techs)

    § Elimination of weekend differential (I, II, V, at AFW, TUL, MCI)

    § Elimination of midnight skill retention premium (Sim Techs)

    § Training pay at straight time for off shift and day off (I, II)

    § Elimination of penalty lunch payment (I, II, III, IV, V)

    § Elimination of OT meal allowance (I, II, III, IV, V, T/S)

    § Penalty hours pay for actual time worked @ 1.5x (I, II, III, IV, V, T/S)

    § Reduce OT rate from 2x to 1.5x (I, II, III, IV, V)

    § Work 40 hrs to reach OT rate for day off overtime (III, V)

    § Elimination of debrief pay (T/S)

    § Elimination of Stock Clerk driver premium

    § Elimination of AMT premiums when displacing OSM employee

    § Elimination of Early Call-In guarantees (I, II, III, IV)

    § Elimination of short turn penalty due to shift bids (Art 21 d) (III, IV)

    § Elimination of CC premium when not working as CC (III,V)







    Work Rules/ Other changes and effective dates:

    Effective April 15, 2003:

    § Combine Systems/Structures into Generals (Title I)

    § Added 7 day labor loan provision (Bases only)

    § Increased AMT productivity through multiple work assignments/training

    § Holidays reduced from 10 to 5. The five (5) observed holidays will be: New Year’s Day, Independence Day, Labor Day, Thanksgiving Day, and Christmas Day (all groups)

    o Holidays- 5 days with roll @ 1.5x (I, II, III, IV, V, T/S, Sim Techs)

    o Holidays- 5 days (no roll) @ 1.5x (Disp, Metro, Instrs)



    Effective May 1, 2003


    § Reduce annual SK accrual to 5 days @ 100% (all except I & II)

    § Reduce annual SK accrual to 5 days, 1st two at 50% (I & II)



    Effective May 3, 2003

    § 4/10s at Overhaul docks/TUL, duration of agreement

    Effective within sixty (60) days of ratification:

    § Outsource RON/Ultraclean (II/III)

    § One time System protection credit for headcount reductions realized from work rule changes (all groups except Metro)



    Effective thirty (30) days from ratification:



    § Reduce uniform provisioning and eliminate laundering (I, II, III, IV, V)

    § Outsource stores function at HDQ (6 Stock Clerks)

    § Relocate 4 Stock Clerks at ORD/GEM to ORD/M & E hanger



    Effective as soon as practicable after DOS:

    § Change work schedule to 5 on, 2 off (T/S)

    § Reduced VC accrual one week (all groups)

    § Modify Crew Chief ratios:

    AMT- 1:11.5

    FSC- 1:9

    Fuelers- eliminated ratio

    Stores- 1:12

    Benefits:

    § Medical & Dental plan modifications (all groups) Effective 1/1/04



    § SLOA Benefit Coverage reduced from 24 to12 months (all groups)

    Effective 5/01/03



    § Eliminate STD Plan (all groups) Effective 1/1/04



    § Discontinue subsidized medical benefits RIF’d employees (all groups)

    Effective 4/15/03





    § Modify IOD to 10 days (all groups) Effective 5/01/03 with the following transition:



    o If the injury was incurred prior to 4/15/03, remaining applicable salary continuation through the end of the month up to the current 80 days

    o If the injury is incurred on 4/15/03 or before 4/30/03, salary continuation for 10 days up to the current 80 days

    o If the injury is incurred after 5/01/03, salary continuation for 10 days



    Sincerely,










    James B. Weel

    Managing Director

    Employee Relations



    Agreed to this date:



    ________________________________

    James C Little

    Transport Workers Union, AFL-CIO
     

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  11. TWU informer

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    CIO,

    Still Fishing!

    We have a few more surprises for you also. Keep laying your credibility out in public. We will steam roll it for you at no extra charge.


    BAWWAAAHHAAAAAAAA :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  12. Stop the Bus..I Want Off!!

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    Very interesting cio. Rumor has it your off to the twu international. Are you going to get off wannabe status?? We're going to have to go to work soon trying to recover the 50+ years of wages and benefits we lost under the twu's watch. I'll miss your rhetoric but I'm sure I'll see it again in the form of:
    " AMFA at AA has 100% farmout"
    " The AMFA mechanics at AA only get 5 holidays a year"
    " The AMFA mechanics at AA get 1/2 pay sick days"

    Keep the Faith.......VOTE AMFA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  14. Checking it Out

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    You know the more I read this letter the more it resembles the letter harvey wrote a couple weeks ago! Still short and please send more in PleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeePleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!


    We are still short!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Since the lack of information is in the body and the lack of Joy? I suspect the
    cards maybe less than what National was hoping for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  15. PRINCESS KIDAGAKASH

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    Hey CIO,

    I 've always wanted to do an imitation of Drippy Quill, and now's my chance!

    HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!
     
  16. Boomer

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    Sorry about duplicating threads...I read my e-mail and posted without checking other threads.

    So much for the conspiracy theory of the TWU...

    Moderator---Please combine the latter thread into the one created herein.
     
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    American Airlines Update – March 5, 2004

    The AMFA staff has completed an audit of the authorization card electronic database against the actual authorization cards, and we were very pleased with the results. Only 31 cards were removed due to questionable signature dates or expired and unreadable authorizations. (Note: The negative comment- implies lack of necessary cards and shows a hint of disappointment) We can thank our American supporters for their attention to detail during the card drive. The Association fully expects to file for a representational dispute/election within the next two weeks. (Note; Wording is similar to the wording from the last letter dated: Feb. 4th 2004)

    Once we file for a representational dispute with the National Mediation Board (NMB), the Board will notify the Company to supply a voter eligibility list and signature samples to the Board. In accordance with NMB rules, once they receive the list and signature samples from the Company the Board will not accept any further authorizations. (Note; Scare tactic? run, Run, RUN!!!!!)

    In most cases the Association would be able to submit additional authorizations for a period of up to two weeks after the filing date. However, we expect that American Airlines is already poised to submit the voter eligibility list and signature samples once they are notified that we filed, which will cut off acceptance of further authorizations. (Note; An excuse- A way out- Lack of substance- scare tactic)

    Anyone who has an authorization card that they want included in this filing, must send it in immediately. (note; A sure sign, lack of cards!)

    Sincerely,
    Terry Harvey
    Assistant National Director

    Here is paragraph from the last letter dated Feb. 4th 2004;

    I can tell you that at this point in time the authorization drive is still several hundred cards short of reaching its goal. If we do not collect more authorization cards during the month of February, we will miss our filing window. This does not mean that we will not file; it just means that if we do not achieve the 60% signed level a filing in March will not be possible. (Terry Harvey) (Note; Is Amfa holding out to get 60%? With the additional cards thrown away Amfa is shorter and keeps getting farther and farther away!!)

    It's obvious, the lack of enthusiasm is a sure sign of the frustration! With extending the date and asking for additional cards it's quit obvious they are lacking. The test is here! Who will overcome? Will it be the international or the organizers? I will hedge towards the TWU members they will be the ones who will ultimately benefit from the internal struggles that is evident within Amfa!

    Time will tell! It is pretty bad when Amfa spams their own thread! This is without a doubt a sure sign of despiration!!!!! hopeful and superside!


    Have a Great TWU DAY!!!!!!!!
     
  18. Hopeful

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    James C. Little

    Administrative Vice President, Air Transport Division

    Transport Workers Union of America, AFL-CIO

    1791 Hurstview Dr.

    Hurst, Texas 76054





    Re: Summary of the 2003 Contract changes



    This will confirm our understanding reached during the negotiations leading up to the agreement signed on (DOS), 2003. During these negotiations, we discussed many changes intended to achieve sustained long-term financial relief from the current provisions of the TWU labor agreements. This letter is intended to recap the majority of the agreed upon changes. Changes are listed by Title groups: I (Mechanics and Related), II (Facilities, Automotive, Cabin Cleaners, Utility and Building Cleaners), III (Fleet Service), IV (Fuelers), V (Stock Clerks), T/S (Technical Specials), Disp (Dispatch), Metro (Meteorologists), Sim Techs (Simulator Technicians) and Instrs (Ground School and Pilot Instructors).



    Pay Related

    Effective May 1, 2003:

    § Base wage pay reduction, varying percentages (all groups)

    § Elimination of all longevity pay(I & II)

    § Modified longevity pay, start after 17 years, current rates (III, IV, V,T/S)

    § Reduced Sim Tech Coordinator premium by $.75/hour

    § Reduced Sim Tech Skill pay to $.10/hour

    § Reduced Pilot Simulator Instructors premium to $10.00/month

    § Reduced Ground School/Pilot Simulator Instructors standardization coordinator pay to $150.00/month

    § Reduced Pilot/Simulator Instructors work unit experience premium

    § Modified shift differential to $.01, $.02, $.03 (I, II, III, V, T/S, Sim Techs)

    § Elimination of weekend differential (I, II, V, at AFW, TUL, MCI)

    § Elimination of midnight skill retention premium (Sim Techs)

    § Training pay at straight time for off shift and day off (I, II)

    § Elimination of penalty lunch payment (I, II, III, IV, V)

    § Elimination of OT meal allowance (I, II, III, IV, V, T/S)

    § Penalty hours pay for actual time worked @ 1.5x (I, II, III, IV, V, T/S)

    § Reduce OT rate from 2x to 1.5x (I, II, III, IV, V)

    § Work 40 hrs to reach OT rate for day off overtime (III, V)

    § Elimination of debrief pay (T/S)

    § Elimination of Stock Clerk driver premium

    § Elimination of AMT premiums when displacing OSM employee

    § Elimination of Early Call-In guarantees (I, II, III, IV)

    § Elimination of short turn penalty due to shift bids (Art 21 d) (III, IV)

    § Elimination of CC premium when not working as CC (III,V)







    Work Rules/ Other changes and effective dates:

    Effective April 15, 2003:

    § Combine Systems/Structures into Generals (Title I)

    § Added 7 day labor loan provision (Bases only)

    § Increased AMT productivity through multiple work assignments/training

    § Holidays reduced from 10 to 5. The five (5) observed holidays will be: New Year’s Day, Independence Day, Labor Day, Thanksgiving Day, and Christmas Day (all groups)

    o Holidays- 5 days with roll @ 1.5x (I, II, III, IV, V, T/S, Sim Techs)

    o Holidays- 5 days (no roll) @ 1.5x (Disp, Metro, Instrs)



    Effective May 1, 2003


    § Reduce annual SK accrual to 5 days @ 100% (all except I & II)

    § Reduce annual SK accrual to 5 days, 1st two at 50% (I & II)



    Effective May 3, 2003

    § 4/10s at Overhaul docks/TUL, duration of agreement

    Effective within sixty (60) days of ratification:

    § Outsource RON/Ultraclean (II/III)

    § One time System protection credit for headcount reductions realized from work rule changes (all groups except Metro)



    Effective thirty (30) days from ratification:



    § Reduce uniform provisioning and eliminate laundering (I, II, III, IV, V)

    § Outsource stores function at HDQ (6 Stock Clerks)

    § Relocate 4 Stock Clerks at ORD/GEM to ORD/M & E hanger



    Effective as soon as practicable after DOS:

    § Change work schedule to 5 on, 2 off (T/S)

    § Reduced VC accrual one week (all groups)

    § Modify Crew Chief ratios:

    AMT- 1:11.5

    FSC- 1:9

    Fuelers- eliminated ratio

    Stores- 1:12

    Benefits:

    § Medical & Dental plan modifications (all groups) Effective 1/1/04



    § SLOA Benefit Coverage reduced from 24 to12 months (all groups)

    Effective 5/01/03



    § Eliminate STD Plan (all groups) Effective 1/1/04



    § Discontinue subsidized medical benefits RIF’d employees (all groups)

    Effective 4/15/03





    § Modify IOD to 10 days (all groups) Effective 5/01/03 with the following transition:



    o If the injury was incurred prior to 4/15/03, remaining applicable salary continuation through the end of the month up to the current 80 days

    o If the injury is incurred on 4/15/03 or before 4/30/03, salary continuation for 10 days up to the current 80 days

    o If the injury is incurred after 5/01/03, salary continuation for 10 days



    Sincerely,










    James B. Weel

    Managing Director

    Employee Relations



    Agreed to this date:



    ________________________________

    James C Little

    Transport Workers Union, AFL-CIO
     

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  19. Ken MacTiernan

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    Peanut Butter Jelly, Peanut Butter Jelly, Peanut Butter Jelly, and a Letter from Terry Harvey.

    Informer, this was PRICELESS!

    cio, why should AMFA National tell you the date and time we file?
    I tell you what, I know when we will file and I will tell you exactly when right after jim little decides to answer my e-mails/questions! But like I said to him earlier, by the time he answers any future e-mails from me the twu will no longer represent our profession.

    By the way coward, how does crow taste? You said we would not file. :lol:
     
  20. Johnny Lunchbox

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    If you have the necesary cards to file, what ya waiting on? More ice cream and cake from MCIE?
     

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