" FRANCIS is coming.............FRANCIS is coming " !
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KCFlyer
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townpete said:
Where'd your argument that the pope shares her fundamentalist views go?
As far as Kimmy being a registered democrat....I know that this is going to be hard for you to understand, but try. Believe it or not, there are democrats who are *gasp* Christian. There are democrats that believe abortion is wrong. And there are democrats who...you might want to sit down....own guns.
If that didn't bowl you over, how about this....there are actually REPUBLICANS who believe that the government shouldn't be involved with a womans body....and republicans who drive economy cars with almost zero emission....and even NRA members who believe that gays should be allowed to marry. These people have "minds" and they use them and don't depend on a party platform or a news network to guide them in what to believe.
Looky here:
From USA Today:
WASHINGTON — Pope Francis made an unscheduled stop to visit the Little Sisters of the Poor Wednesday, a move that Vatican officials said was intended to send a message of support in the nuns’ battle against Obamacare.
The religious order of Catholic sisters is suing the Obama administration over a provision of the Affordable Care Act that the administration has interpreted as requiring the sisters to purchase health insurance with birth control coverage.
Catholic teaching opposes the use of birth control. The sisters can request a waiver, but their lawsuit argues that requiring that paperwork infringes on their religious freedom. The sisters are suing under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, a Clinton-era law that prohibits the government from placing a “substantial burden” on the free exercise of religion.
Last August, an appeals court sided with the government, but an unusual dissent by five judges this month called that decision “clearly and gravely wrong — on an issue that has little to do with contraception and a great deal to do with religious liberty.” The question now goes to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Francis met with the sisters at their Washington convent next door to the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception, where he celebrated a canonization Mass for St. Junipero Serra. The private meeting was not on the pope’s public schedule and was only disclosed afterward.
“This is a sign, obviously, of support for them,” said the Vatican Press Secretary, Rev. Federico Lombardi.
Louisville Archbishop Joseph Kurtz, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, said the court case represents the broader understanding of freedom of religion held by the Catholic church.
“Freedom of religion also means the ability to live out your religion,” he said. “The last thing the Little Sisters of the Poor want to do is sue somebody. They want to serve the poor and the elderly, and do so in a way that doesn’t conflict with their beliefs. We feel strongly about that. It’s a freedom not of special privilege, it’s a freedom to serve others, and serve others in such a way that does not compromise the integrity of our beliefs.”
The quiet show of support comes as Francis walks a political tightrope in Washington this week, speaking out on moral issues of concern to conservatives (abortion and religious freedom) and liberals (immigration and the environment) alike.
While Kurtz acknowledged that there were political ramifications to the issues Francis will raise in his address to Congress Thursday, Kurtz cautioned people to “hear his whole message.”
“We have to be careful not to pick one item in isolation,” he said. “The Holy Father comes as a pastor and as a prophet, and as a prophet he comes with a certain moral voice.”
Francis also greeted 3,000 seminarians and members of other religious orders inside the Basilica before the canonization Mass in order to encourage vocations to the priesthood and religious life.
From USA Today:
WASHINGTON — Pope Francis made an unscheduled stop to visit the Little Sisters of the Poor Wednesday, a move that Vatican officials said was intended to send a message of support in the nuns’ battle against Obamacare.
The religious order of Catholic sisters is suing the Obama administration over a provision of the Affordable Care Act that the administration has interpreted as requiring the sisters to purchase health insurance with birth control coverage.
Catholic teaching opposes the use of birth control. The sisters can request a waiver, but their lawsuit argues that requiring that paperwork infringes on their religious freedom. The sisters are suing under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, a Clinton-era law that prohibits the government from placing a “substantial burden” on the free exercise of religion.
Last August, an appeals court sided with the government, but an unusual dissent by five judges this month called that decision “clearly and gravely wrong — on an issue that has little to do with contraception and a great deal to do with religious liberty.” The question now goes to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Francis met with the sisters at their Washington convent next door to the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception, where he celebrated a canonization Mass for St. Junipero Serra. The private meeting was not on the pope’s public schedule and was only disclosed afterward.
“This is a sign, obviously, of support for them,” said the Vatican Press Secretary, Rev. Federico Lombardi.
Louisville Archbishop Joseph Kurtz, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, said the court case represents the broader understanding of freedom of religion held by the Catholic church.
“Freedom of religion also means the ability to live out your religion,” he said. “The last thing the Little Sisters of the Poor want to do is sue somebody. They want to serve the poor and the elderly, and do so in a way that doesn’t conflict with their beliefs. We feel strongly about that. It’s a freedom not of special privilege, it’s a freedom to serve others, and serve others in such a way that does not compromise the integrity of our beliefs.”
The quiet show of support comes as Francis walks a political tightrope in Washington this week, speaking out on moral issues of concern to conservatives (abortion and religious freedom) and liberals (immigration and the environment) alike.
While Kurtz acknowledged that there were political ramifications to the issues Francis will raise in his address to Congress Thursday, Kurtz cautioned people to “hear his whole message.”
“We have to be careful not to pick one item in isolation,” he said. “The Holy Father comes as a pastor and as a prophet, and as a prophet he comes with a certain moral voice.”
Francis also greeted 3,000 seminarians and members of other religious orders inside the Basilica before the canonization Mass in order to encourage vocations to the priesthood and religious life.
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delldude said:
He also spoke out about global warming but you didn't cite any articles on that. If you were a Catholic, right about now they'd be calling you a "cafeteria Catholic".
Also...if they want to encourage more vocations to the priesthood and religious life, let priests marry...and let women become priests. Next thing you know, they'll be calling you Episcopalian.
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townpete said:
See that right there?
Global Warming! Yeah! Pope is the best!
Your single issue requirement has been fulfilled!.
Back to your regularly scheduled explosive diarrhea episode.
lol
ACtually, I only mention global warming because the right hates it, and was upset at the pope for talking about it. Personally, I wish "my side" wouldn't have focused on global warming and would have focused instead on environmental protection. It's easy to argue against global warming....but only an asshole would argue against clean air.
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townpete said:
NOt quite....you just posted a cutesy picture because you thought it was predictable because I disagree with what Fox and Brietbart tell me to believe, that I must be all anti global warming. You were wrong there. I said....I wish they didn't focus on global warming and rather focus on environmental protection instead. I reread my post and I didn't see where I mentioned abortion, gay marriage, social justice or socialism. You did your happy happy joy joy dance because I said two words that are sure to launch....how'd you put that...oh yeah "explosive diarrhea" from Fox News viewers.
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I agree with the protection of the environment perspective. We are polluting the water, air and soil. That is something that we can definitely have an effect on. The fact that it would have a positive effect on the planets weather would be a bonus. How people argue against that is beyond understanding.
I wonder how many of the people in areas whose groundwater is affected by fracking were all for it before it affected them? How many people are for cheap fuel and massive SUV's until they are told that their kid has breathing problems because the air quality is crap? Lets build bunches of nuclear plants ... OH but not in my neighborhood. OH and I don't want the radioactive waste in my neighborhood either...... on and on and on........
I wonder how many of the people in areas whose groundwater is affected by fracking were all for it before it affected them? How many people are for cheap fuel and massive SUV's until they are told that their kid has breathing problems because the air quality is crap? Lets build bunches of nuclear plants ... OH but not in my neighborhood. OH and I don't want the radioactive waste in my neighborhood either...... on and on and on........
KCFlyer said:
You miss the BIG rally?
Another Climate Prediction Fizzles: DC Climate Rally for Pope shrinks from expected 200,000 people to just ‘hundreds’
Be sure to read the comments at page bottom.
http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/09/24/another-climate-prediction-fizzles-dc-climate-rally-for-pope-shrinks-from-expected-200000-to-just-hundreds/
The Spin:
Pope’s Visit To D.C. Inspires Hundreds To Rally For Climate Justice
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/09/24/3705248/climate-justice-rally-pope-francis/
Even lefties don't have time.....LOL
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Actually, they did somethingMs Tree said:
Moved the predators to different parishes so they could molest a whole new crowd of innocents, or moved them to different countries to avoid prosecution.
That is not an attack on anyone's faith. It is an indictment if the institution
