Lion Air Max8 crash

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  1. B737 driver

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    #1 B737 driver, Oct 29, 2018
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    I hope they can find out quickly what caused a brand new aircraft to crash 13 mins into the flight said they needed to return to the airport for a technical issue. This could effect SWA , unless it was pilot error. However the crew was experienced. Both pilots had 11,000 hours between them.
     
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    Air data issues on the captains airspeed and altimeter... history from a previous flight squawk.. They stalled the airplane while trying analyze the problem... logbook pic attached
     

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    Almost sounds like that Air France Airbus crash in the Atlantic , pitot tube issues and stalled and crashed the Aircraft . If it is I see an AD coming out fairly quickly. I know the Max 8 has automatic pitot heat as soon as the engines start we modified all our 737s, even the NGs with that feature, in case the crews forget to turn the heat on.
     
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    Wasnt there a NW A330 had a similar issue as well?
     
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    I believe so, what year was that?
     
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    I cant remember the time period but i think it was on a japan to us flight n the crew successfully landed in Japan i think
     
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    You can stall an Airplane and crash it, if they pull this max up and the slats are in auto extended, they have that for stall recovery.
     
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    I see the DFDR showed air speed problems , like four times. In cluding the day before the crash. Should prove interesting.
     
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    4 times seems like the plane should of been grounded for repairs?
     
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    #12 jimntx, Nov 6, 2018
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    Do you wonder why the European Union denied air space rights for all Indonesian airlines for several years? Seems like maybe they shouldn't have lifted the ban a couple of years ago.
     
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    #13 jimntx, Nov 7, 2018
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    Scary part: Just heard on NBC this morning that the instrument which produced the incorrect reading that led to the crash was just replaced the night before. This was part of a bulletin issued by Boeing this morning. (It's really going to be a blow to Boeing if it is found that the Indonesian mechanics re-placed the defective instrument correctly. I'm afraid this is going to result in the grounding of all of 737 Max8 a/c in service.)

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/07/reu...ulletin-for-pilots-after-indonesia-crash.html

    FAA tells airlines to heed Boeing warning. (Ya think?)
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ulletin-for-737-max-after-indonesia-jet-crash

    Boeing & FAA to issue warning. (From Seattle TV station news)
    https://www.king5.com/article/news/...ue-737-max-warnings-to-airlines/281-612014165
     
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    Things change quickly, you never know what can happen.
     
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    Actually, after I made that post, I read further into one of the links I listed and found that the FAA action does not require that the 737 MAX8 a/c be grounded. Seems the correction to the particular problem is already in the pilot's manual. A switch needs to be engaged, but it must be held in position in order for the autopilot to stop trying to dive the a/c. If I got this right, holding the switch in open position tells the autopilot to ignore certain info which normally would tell the autopilot that the a/c has stalled and the a/c must dive to restart. Now, if I got it wrong, remember I was a flight attendant. I was paid to be cute, not smart.
     
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