Mec President Resigns Early

[abonny]

My namesake is fine. Is yours toothless?

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LOL!!!

 

[EyeInTheSky]

Simply put, Ms. Xidas did not accept the offer. Is there a signature saying she accepted? Apparently, no one on the MEC can find it. Teddy Xidas was the hardest working MEC President this airline every had. It's all smoke and mirrors putting attention on something that didn't happen versus dealing with real issues within AFA. Like, a member of the negotiating committee who really broke some rules by downloading porn on an AFA laptop. (Personally, I wouldn't want that laptop near me...I hope it was sanitized.) All sick joking aside, why is this guy still on any AFA committee? And, why are specific LEC/MEC members sandbagging it's hardest working official? Again, it comes back to CCY and a too close relationship between upper management and several elected union officials.

 

[diogenes]

That's what it seems to come down to, doesn't it, Eye?

I'll bet $100 right now AFA will take a major one up the six within 8 months.

Except this time, they'll take it like the men at ALPA and IAM! :down:

 

[abonny]

Relax.  The DOL won't touch the non-action on the part of the PIT LECP.  The actions of the PHL LECP and LECVP, however, are actionable in court.

This is part of what I do everyday, folks, and if it happened at my company (public and thus accountable to all the stuff that comes with that) our corporate security folks, law department, and HR folks would be quaking when the plantiff's attorney showed up.  They would be in a rather large hurry to dismiss the offenders before the plantiff's attorney waltzes in (helps limit damages). 

Question:  can one hold a LEC office if they've been terminated for cause from the airline?

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No. In order to hold an office in the Association of Flight Attendant Union, one must be a flight attendant on a system seniority list. There was one exception but that had to do with the demise of an airline.

I am not sure about the laws that govern the DOL but I do know that a lot of folks putting their own ‘spin’ and interpretation into what the AFA Constitution and By Laws (C&B) requires.

AFA has long standing procedures that must be followed if there is a concern over a possible impropriety by Union Rep., NONE of which call for a ‘Public Flogging†as Laura Albert would like to see.

AFA does NOT recommend airing grievances in the Press such as the NEWLY Elected MECP, Mike Flores, threatened he was going to do.

AFA does NOT recommend or encourage hysterically calling for a resignation PRIOR to an investigation, which PHL LECP, Laura Albert and PHL LEC VP, Terry Graf are both guilty.

Nope, the AFA C&B does NOT, call for PUBLIC disclosure of ANYTHING in fact just the opposite is true.

Two Quotes From Article XV of the AFA Ethical Practices Code:

“Charges of violations of this Code along with the substantiating documentation, shall be referred by a member(s) of the AFA-CWA to the Ethical Practices Committee for REVIEW and recommended disposition."

AND

"All Charges and investigations shall be kept CONFIDENTIAL unless and until the Ethical Practices Committee finds reasonable cause to bring the matter to a hearing. The Committee shall adopt the reasonable measures to ensure that confidentiality is maintained, including enforceable sanctions for breach of confidentiality."

So WHO is it that has really broken the AFA Code of Ethics? At this time, there is only one answer: PHL LECP, Laura Albert, PHL VP, Terry Graf, and the newly elected MECP, Mike Flores.

Laura, Mike and Terry, have not abided by the AFA C&B in which they promised to uphold when they agreed to take office. They have not acted responsibly, professionally OR Ethically! They are NOT leaders but are instead lead by their ‘personal’ jealousy/dislike of Teddy. They have conducted themselves like a bloodthirsty gang of thugs, rather than Leaders.

They DO NOT give a 'rats a--' about propriety. If they did, they would remove Perry Hayes from the Negotiating Committee. No, they just wanted Teddy's head on a stick so they could parade it around in hopes of justifying their own very short, shortcomings.

The MEC needs to file charges against these three for breaking the very same Code of Ethics they are accusing Teddy of breaking. At least they will be given the opportunity of a full investigation.

 

[diogenes]

That is similiar to how it works at IAM, too.

We can bring a fellow member up on charges at our local lodge.

The executive board of the lodge, or a panel of executives and the membership, hears the case, and acts accordingly.

Witnesses and documents can be presented in the hearing.

Egregious actions - financial impropriety, ethical violations, etc - are taken quite seriously,as the union does not want the DOL or press on their back.

OTOH, the union takes a dim view of 'personality conflicts.'

At any rate, it is handled internally.

 

[boeing]

The first question I have is why did Terry Graff not use Prof. Standards first? Why put yourself out there and ask Pat Friend for advice and bring in the other LECPs w/o going to prof stand. This is the approach you are taught in AFA from the begining. Second, Teddy resigned so that takes care of itself. For those of you who are USAirways employees it should alarm you that this has occured!! Are your files safe? Do you really want to take a chance? The company and afa MUST investigate this from both sides. Terry Graff should make a statement and explain where this came from. I want assurances from AFA and USAirways that this will not happen and if it does there will be consequenses for those involved in breaching anothers file.

 

[USAirBoyA330]

You people are just ......uhhhg. I have been asking around and found out that Pat Friend indeed did say "either you bring this forward or I will." You know AWA is trying to screw the U F/A's out of Date of Hire and we are worried about this!? PRIORITIZE PEOPLE!.......we have more important things to worry about for the good of all Flight Attendants.....let it go or go squabble somewhere else. This is so minuscule in the scheme of things and I am just sick to death of it. He said...no she said...but she/he said....but she hates me.....oh but she wore that blue dress to the prom and I told her I was wearing blue....how dare her! Marsha! Marsha! Marsha!

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[PITbull]

LOL...

USAirboy, you are on the wrong thread.

 

[USAirBoyA330]

PITBull:

I am on the right tread. I wish everyone knew which one is more important. Good luck everyone....we are in the fight of our lives and I hope we can rise to the challage.

 

[PITbull]

well then... I thought there was a thread started that spoke about "seniority"...

We must be on the wrong thread.

 

[USAirBoyA330]

Don't act like I am "on the wrong thread." I am trying to make a point. We have this thread and then one on seniority......which do you think is more important to the USAirways F/A's? Why do I even bother? The flight attendants at this airline are so busy fighting with themselves they won't see the oncoming train about to hit them. I am not going to be drawn into this thread. My efforts and energy should be focused elsewhere. Sorry I intruded on the bashing contest.

 

[PITbull]

USAirboy,

Lighten up.

The Union leadership that you elected will argue any DOH issue at the BOD. THat's the only place AFA can argue it.

Presently, no one has seen any agenda item from AWA brought forward. And I personally believe U MEC will have full support from United to maintain our long standing policy that AFA at US Airways always abided by, including 4 mergers. US Airways f/as have always regarded the policy and in every merger, there were f/as hurt. One example, when Piedmont Airlines stapeled Empire to the bottom of their list, US Airways AFA corrected this in our merger and slotted empire in...DOH.

United will be supportive...Just a hunch. B)

 

[goodstew]

I have had limited dealings with both Laura and Terri in their professional capacities but a long history with both on the line. I have had unsatisfactory and very unprofessional responses from both members in the last month. In a response to a question about USAirways safety corner cutting (and repeated violation of federal law) that I have seen on line; I was told by Terri to keep my mouth shut if I knew what was good for me - the union would deny all knowlege. In a response from a question I posed to Laura on the recall election of Teddy - she responed in a really petty and defensive manner. It was clear to me that she did not care what her membership thought and was ignoring the mounting wave of opposition to her position. She clearly had an agenda and was hell-bent on seeing it through. It is far too cozy with the USAirways management in the phl afa office these days. I have been a strong, vocal and active union member for the last 18 years. I took the furlough Sep 1 and feel like a bit of a coward but I am tired of the BS. To my friends in PHL who are still around...beware and keep your eyes open and your noses clean. You don't have any friends or allies anymore. We will miss you Mollie and Teddy....Mariellen, how do you stand it?

 

[PITbull]

I miss Mollie more than anyone can imagine. She was a Champion for the f/as, and even when she went on furlough, she rode Teddy's assz daily keeping abreast of the issues.

And Now Teddy is at the Local and Mollie is still on her assez about the issues at hand specfiically sticking to DOH, DOH, DOH, DOH.

She's our girl and she will be coming back off her furlough on Dec. 2.

 

[EyeInTheSky]

Don't act like I am "on the wrong thread." I am trying to make a point. We have this thread and then one on seniority......which do you think is more important to the USAirways F/A's? Why do I even bother? The flight attendants at this airline are so busy fighting with themselves they won't see the oncoming train about to hit them. I am not going to be drawn into this thread. My efforts and energy should be focused elsewhere. Sorry I intruded on the bashing contest.

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USAirBoyA330, think what you will but what happened among the PHL LEC has grave consequences for all US FAs. I agree about the fighting, but I think it's important to have the best people fighting for the very issues you find so important. To be frank, the F/As don't have an MEC in their best interest right now. Can't slay the contract dragon when there's no fire in their belly.