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Key Points from Bear Sterns JetBlue EMB-190 Report


NEW AIRCRAFT ORDER
- In a surprise move, JetBlue breaks with its single aircraft type fleet and orders 100 Embraer 190s with options for 100 more. Deliveries begin in 2005. Lease financing has been arranged for the first 30 planes.


COST PRESSURE
- Our primary concern is that the addition of the new plane will cause unit costs to increase. Unit costs will be about one penny higher (15%) on the Embraer 190 than the A320. In addition to add-ons for pilot training and maintenance, we believe the economics of a smaller plane servicing shorter routes will drive overall unit costs up by 0.5 cents (8%) by 2009 from current levels.


BUT ADVANTAGE REMAINS
- The good news is that even with this change, we project that JetBlue will still have a 25-35% unit cost advantage to the majors over the long term.


A PROBLEM OF PERCEPTIONS
- Near term, we believe this will be a tough pill for investors given the attraction to the single aircraft type, point-to-point model. The key is arguing that the move will propel rapid growth into the second half of the decade. On the roadshow, management's challenge will be breaking down the perception that the single aircraft type is the only road to success.


KEEPING AN OPEN MIND
- We believe it would be a mistake to fuel the knee jerk reactions which immediately dismiss any departure from the existing business model. While we are concerned about the unit cost pressure, we believe that markets exist that can be served by the EMB 190 at fares that will stimulate demand and propel continued growth at JetBlue. We maintain our YE target range of $33-$37.

Best regards,

Chip
 

Boyd Group - Hot Flash - June 16, 2003

The jetBlue Embraer Deal...
It's A Lot More Than A Jet Order
Airbus Just Took One Right On The Nose Cone...

Two very significant events took place last week. One caused a media frenzy. The other was hardly noticed, if at all.
The first was the jetBlue order for 100 Embraer E-190s. The second notable event was when Frontier, at the Paris Air Show, accepted the keys to the carrier's first Airbus A-318.
Airbus Thought Boeing Was The Competition. They're Thinking Again. The significance of these events has apparently been lost on most everybody, except maybe for some thunderstruck folks deep within the Airbus and Boeing strategic planning departments. While the media types babbled on about jetBlue's "regional" jets, the folks in Toulouse no doubt got the real message: the 170/190 E-Jet platform has launched Embraer into the forefront of the mainline airliner business. Worse, with the jetBlue order, Airbus just got kicked in the nose cone, and possibly even relegated to a secondary role in the 100-seat market as well. The A-318 is in deep trouble.
Consider: jetBlue ordered a fleet of 100-seat airliners. Simply because the manufacturer was Embraer, the veneer types in the media called it a big "regional jet order." (They must have missed the press releases from both the airline and the manufacturer: neither used the term "regional jet.") At the same time, Frontier took possession of the A-318, which Airbus describes as its "100-seat" airliner. But nobody called it a "regional jet" when Frontier ordered it. Frontier ordered a handful of A-318s. jetBlue ordered and optioned 200 Embraers.
The E-190 is a 100-seat jet with a range well in excess of 2,500 miles. The A-318 is what Airbus bills as its own 100-seat jet, and it also has a range in excess of 2,500 miles. The real-world, in-fleet mission capabilities of the two aircraft are not much different, but some media trendies, many of whom couldn't recognize a E-190 from a Curtiss Condor, saw the name "Embraer" and confidently referred to the aircraft as a "regional jet."
Airbus Just Got The Bionic Winkie. The 2003 Paris Airshow, at least behind the scenes, was likely not a real happy place for Airbus. While they were publicly tipping the bubbly, toasting a couple of A-380 orders, they where being zapped out of the lower end of the fastest growth airliner demand category.
Consider The Impact. The jetBlue order likely hit Airbus like a brick. The A-318 is almost 100% compatible with the A-320. Cockpits. Maintenance. Parts inventory. Training. Pilot exchangeability between the two. Consider: jetBlue has over 100 A-320s in operation and on order. From that perspective, the A-318 was the slam-dunk choice when jetBlue was looking for a smaller airliner, right? Wrong. The relative economics of the two airplanes apparently more than made up the difference. jetBlue clearly understands that it isn't the number of seats, it's the economics of the airplane.
The hard fact is that the A-318 and the E-170/190 series are direct competitors. Looking at what both airplanes can do, say, from Frontier's Denver hub, there isn't much difference. The A-318 is a little bigger, and has more range, but both aircraft have very similar in-fleet mission applications. Both, by the way, can reach either cost from Denver. Both can offer seats more than an inch wider than a 737. The only difference, and it's a big one: the economics of the Embraer are likely leagues better than the A-318, which is a downsized A-320.
The Beginning of The RJ End. Far from being an extension of the "RJ phenomenon" as some are trying to spin it, the emergence of the E-170/190 as a viable player in the US is another signal that the RJ order cycle is ending fast. While <51 seat jets (and their stretched 70-90 seat Canadair progeny) will continue to have a role, it's going to be one that will be in decline by the end of the decade.
Leveling The Playing Field. While jetBlue is a low cost airline, they do not have a permanent lock on operational efficiency. These smaller E-Jets can be used to great effect by network carriers. Not only do the economics lend well to feed roles, but the ergonomics are equal to larger jets, or better. Mega-carriers can apply these aircraft to building medium-size markets, generating more revenue through their hub operations than possible with 50-seat RJs.
Where The Demand Will Be: 70 - 150 Seats. As the fleet forecasts at our annual Forecast Conferences have made clear over the last four years, the main growth area in airliner demand in the coming decade won't be widebodies. And, as we alone first forecast, it sure won't be <51 seat RJs. The real demand in terms of units will be in the 70-150 seat narrowbody jets. The jetBlue order shows without any doubt that Embraer has staked out the lower end of this demand category.
We'd all better wake up and smell the Brazilian coffee: There are now three global producers of airliners: Boeing, Airbus, and - Embraer.
 
On June 16, Airline Financial News (AFN), www.aviationtoday.com interviewed JetBlue chief executive officer David Neeleman. AFN said, "While Embraer may consider the 190 a regional jet, Neeleman does not. "It is not a regional jet in the original sence of the word. This has a wider aisle and seats than the A320." The plane will have a range of 2,100 nautical miles. "It's not a transcontinental, but is also not constrained," Neeleman said.
"On the Embraer we will need 60 people to breakeven, but we would need 120 on the Airbus," he noted.

Best regards,

Chip
 
JetBlue's A320s operate in a 162-seat single class configuration and have a 120 passenger break even load, which provides a fairly high 74% break even load factor.

The company's new EMB-190, which could see delivery delays like the EMB-170, may not be available until 2006. JetBlue will outfit these aircraft with 100 leather seats, four abreast at 32-inch pitch with its signature DIRECTV satellite television in every seat. The 60-passenger break even load, will provide a 60% break even load factor.


Mike Boyd, airline consultant of the Boyd Group said, "While jetBlue is a low cost airline, they do not have a permanent lock on operational efficiency. These smaller E-Jets can be used to great effect by network carriers. Not only do the economics lend well to feed roles, but the ergonomics are equal to larger jets, or better. Mega-carriers can apply these aircraft to building medium-size markets, generating more revenue through their hub operations than possible with 50-seat RJs."

US Airways’ EMB-170/175 will be operated in a two-class configuration, which should provide a business traveler yield premium. These aircraft will be configured with either 70 or 78-seats and the aircraft would be very profitable with 60 passengers (86% and 77% load factor, respectively). US Airways' EMB-170/175 will provide a competitive product to the JetBlue EMB-190 because of the MDA cost structure, especially if US Airways can get much lower Philadelphia and Pittsburgh International Airport operating cost structures.

According to Aviation Daily, Embraer CEO Mauricio Botelho said US Airways was expected to take delivery of its first aircraft in November, and he expects to keep that schedule.




Best regards,

Chip
 
Chip,

Who are you trying to convince? You have the first three entries in this string.

Look just remember that JBLU does not know what maintenance cost for the Airbus yet. But when they are due an extensive service check JBLU will get it in the ass the French way.

Hell none of their employes are union and no one is toppped out in pay.

The end result of the purchase is the company is changing the business plans and will FAIL on the note.
 
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On 6/18/2003 9:08:52 AM Airmech737 wrote:
Chip,

Who are you trying to convince? You have the first three entries in this string.

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Airmech737:

Perhaps the aforementioned is a frustrated and unfulfilled journalism major or an out of work graphics cut & paste workup artist?
 
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On 6/18/2003 9:08:52 AM Airmech737 wrote:

Chip,

Who are you trying to convince? You have the first three entries in this string.

Look just remember that JBLU does not know what maintenance cost for the Airbus yet. But when they are due an extensive service check JBLU will get it in the ass the French way.

Hell none of their employes are union and no one is toppped out in pay.

The end result of the purchase is the company is changing the business plans and will FAIL on the note.

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Beautiful! We value your opinion. Next time we''ll try to find out what mx costs will be before we buy an airplane. Darn, I knew we forgot something! Could you tell us how to get those union thingys working on our property, so we can be just like you? No, really......
 
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On 6/18/2003 9:08:52 AM Airmech737 wrote:


Look just remember that JBLU does not know what maintenance cost for the Airbus yet. But when they are due an extensive service check JBLU will get it in the ass the French way.

Hell none of their employes are union and no one is toppped out in pay.

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These costs don/t exist and they still have a 74% BELF? Ouch.
 
Oh, my! 72% BELF and free mx and free airplanes? What are we going to do? The sky is falling, the sky is falling....
Oh, if you ever feel like getting real, you can go read the SEC filings, and find out for yourself how much we pay in aircraft leases and mortgages as well as for C checks and the rest. But I know it''s more fun to run around quoting Chicken Little.
 
Thank you for pointing out the article that basically said Airbus just got "BUSted". When a customer rejects your offering in the 100 seat catagory for a totally different manufacturer....that tells you a lot about the efficiency of your 318.

I find it interesting that Boeing has the 717 line that fits the 75-150 pax line to a "T". A 717-100 in a 80 seat configuration, the 717-200 in the present
110 seat configuration and the much sought after (by Airtran anyway) 150 seat 717-300. Rather than competing with Boeings 737, these models would complement them on a slightly lower size scale. Too bad Boeing doesn''t seem to recognize the potential in that airframe.
 
Isn''t there enough maintenance history on the A320 fleet (worldwide) for JB to have an idea what their long-term maintenance costs will be?
 
Of course there is, but some of our critics like to placate themselves with the ongoing fantasy that we got everything for free up front, but will soon have to "pay the piper." Don''t ruin it for them.
 
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On 6/18/2003 9:08:52 AM Airmech737 wrote:

Chip,

Who are you trying to convince? You have the first three entries in this string.

Look just remember that JBLU does not know what maintenance cost for the Airbus yet. But when they are due an extensive service check JBLU will get it in the ass the French way.

Hell none of their employes are union and no one is toppped out in pay.

The end result of the purchase is the company is changing the business plans and will FAIL on the note.

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This is such illogical reasoning. First of all JetBlue had to PAY for all the new planes. Then they have to pay the upfront costs to start 20+ cities. As JetBlue adds more planes their fixed costs will be distributed across more planes. If its such a great idea why doesn''t AA go on out and buy 100 A-320''s of its own to compete with JetBlue.
 

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