Kev3188
Veteran
The Points Guy website is reporting that Gary Kelly will approach WN's unions for concessions.
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If that's the first who be second? Its gonna be a helluva bumpy ride
There are some other parameters involved here.
First of all, the folks out on voluntary leaves with partial pay agreed to the pay at the time they all left. They are already on a 50% pay cut so either leave them where they are or IF the co. breaks the deals and includes them to go to some lower pay cut agreements then the on leave employees should have the choice to come back as the agreement would be changed by the company. In other words some could take the 50% pay reduction from full pay but NOT from 10-20% cut in full pay and then still apply the 50% pay on leave.
Secondly, All the unions have stated how they feel about concessions. However, Southwest being Southwest, I am sure all unions will agree to talks with the company and see what kind of concessions they are referring to and how much. I could possibly see a small pay reduction like 5-10%, but if they approach the 20% or greater, I don't see that going thru. Going to 20% would trigger most all folks to come back off of leave UNLESS, the company leaves the folks alone at the 50% cut of full pay which would be more than what the rest of the company unions would agree to. So I say leave the folks alone on the voluntary leaves, otherwise they will all come back at full time and cost the company even more money.
Thirdly, let's wait and see what all the unions have to say after meeting with the airline on concessions.
Been through it before. I KNOW what's coming.The airline will still need to remain in business, so it will ultimately come down to concessions or layoffs for represented employees. And remember the trickle down effects of layoffs. Lowest get laid off, next tier will have to relocate. And if your fortunate enough to stay at your station, get ready to work nights, weekends, holidays and get bumped down the list when it comes to vacation bidding.
It's not just as simple as saying "no, no, no."
Are you taking a cut just to keep people who really are not needed?There are some other parameters involved here.
First of all, the folks out on voluntary leaves with partial pay agreed to the pay at the time they all left. They are already on a 50% pay cut so either leave them where they are or IF the co. breaks the deals and includes them to go to some lower pay cut agreements then the on leave employees should have the choice to come back as the agreement would be changed by the company. In other words some could take the 50% pay reduction from full pay but NOT from 10-20% cut in full pay and then still apply the 50% pay on leave.
Secondly, All the unions have stated how they feel about concessions. However, Southwest being Southwest, I am sure all unions will agree to talks with the company and see what kind of concessions they are referring to and how much. I could possibly see a small pay reduction like 5-10%, but if they approach the 20% or greater, I don't see that going thru. Going to 20% would trigger most all folks to come back off of leave UNLESS, the company leaves the folks alone at the 50% cut of full pay which would be more than what the rest of the company unions would agree to. So I say leave the folks alone on the voluntary leaves, otherwise they will all come back at full time and cost the company even more money.
Thirdly, let's wait and see what all the unions have to say after meeting with the airline on concessions.
Easy for Bears to scream "full pay to the last day" when he's not actually working there. The unions at AA took that approach, and 19,000 of them are filing for unemployment and COBRA as of a week ago.
I'll hope that the unions and employees at WN and DL are a lot more self-aware of just how dire the situation is that they're facing and act accordingly. They see the empty airplanes and airports on a daily basis. Do you keep some people at full pay, or do you engage in "shared sacrifice" and wet everyone's beaks?
My household managed to weather an effective 20% paycut that we had zero say and zero warning on. From firsthand experience, I'd still rather have 80% of something than 100% of nothing.