The Emperor has no cloths

[wnbubbleboy]

Am I missing something here? The Senator Reed has withdrawn the bill because they could not get cloture.

http://www.senate.gov/reference/glossary_term/cloture.htm

Bush doesn't have angry constituants to go home to. What does he think is going to change?

US President George W. Bush was confident Monday that the most sweeping overhaul of US immigration laws in two decades will ultimately clear Congress once he gets home from his European tour.
Speaking in Bulgaria's capital Sofia, Bush acknowledged disappointment that the legislation -- aimed at bringing 12 million illegal immigrants out of the shadows -- collapsed Thursday in the Democratic-controlled Congress.

"Listen, the immigration debate is a tough debate. I'm under no illusions about how hard it is," he told a news conference.

"There are people in my (Republican) party that don't want a comprehensive bill. There are people in the Democrat Party that don't seem to want a comprehensive bill."

But he said that he would, upon his return to Washington, get in touch with leading Democrats and Republicans who do support the legislation to get it firmly back on track.

"I'll be going to the Senate to talk about a way forward on the piece of legislation

http://www.breitbart.com/print.php?id=0706...;show_article=1

 

[Gilding the Lily]

Am I missing something here? The Senator Reed has withdrawn the bill because they could not get cloture.

Yeah... that is basically what happened. The Dems wanted cloture so that they could all but guarantee that the bill would be passed shortly.

The repubs, however, want more of "their" ammendments to be passed before they vote yes to the cloture.

That is where the deadlock arose.

Reid was more than willing to add more "republican" ammendments, but only if they could agree to the certain time of passing the bill (cloture). But the repubs wouldn't vote for cloture until they received their "ammendments".

 

[wnbubbleboy]

U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 110th Congress - 1st Session (2007)

Vote Date Issue Question Result Description
00206 07-Jun S. 1348 On the Cloture Motion S.Amdt. 1150 Rejected Upon Reconsideration, Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Kennedy Amdt. No. 1150, As Amended; In the nature of a substitute.
00205 07-Jun S. 1348 On the Motion Agreed to Motion to Instruct Sgt. at Arms; Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007
00204 07-Jun S. 1348 On the Cloture Motion Rejected Motion to Invoke Cloture on S. 1348; Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007
00203 07-Jun S. 1348 On the Cloture Motion S.Amdt. 1150 Rejected Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Kennedy Amdt. No. 1150, As Amended; In the nature of a substitute.
00202 07-Jun S. 1348 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 1311 Rejected Coburn Amdt. No. 1311, As Modified; To require the enforcement of existing border security and immigration laws and Congressional approval before amnesty can be granted.
00201 06-Jun S. 1348 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 1316 Agreed to Dorgan Amdt. No. 1316; To sunset the Y-1 nonimmigrant visa program after a 5-yer period.
00200 06-Jun S. 1348 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 1202 Rejected Obama Amdt. No. 1202, As Modified; To provide a date on which the authority of the section relating to the increasing of American competitiveness through a merit-based evaluation system for immigrants shall be terminated.
00199 06-Jun S. 1348 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 1339 Rejected Vitter Amdt. No. 1339; To require that the U.S. VISIT system- the biometric border check-in/check-out system first required by Congress in 1996 that is already well past its already postponed 2005 implementation due date- be finished as part of the enforcement trigger.
00198 06-Jun S. 1348 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 1151 Agreed to Inhofe Amdt. No. 1151; To amend title 4, United States Code, to declare English as the national language of the Government of the United States, and for other purposes.
00197 06-Jun S. 1348 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 1384 Agreed to Salazar Amdt. No. 1384; To preserve and enhance the role of the English language.
00196 06-Jun S. 1348 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 1374 Rejected Ensign Amdt. No. 1374; To improve the criteria and weights of the merit-based evaluation system.
00195 06-Jun S. 1348 On the Motion S.Amdt. 1183 Rejected Motion to Waive CBA Re: Clinton Amdt. No. 1183, As Further Modified; To reclassify the spouses and minor children of lawful permanent residents as immediate relatives.
00194 06-Jun S. 1348 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 1460 Agreed to Kyl Amdt. No. 1460; To modify the allocation of visas with respect to the backlog of family-based visa petitions.
00193 06-Jun S. 1348 On the Motion S.Amdt. 1194 Rejected Motion to Waive CBA Re: Menendez Amdt. No 1194; To modify the deadline for the family backlog reduction.
00192 06-Jun S. 1348 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 1234 Agreed to Sessions Amdt. No. 1234; To save American taxpayers up to $24 billion in the 10 years after passage of this Act, by preventing the earned income tax credit, which is, according to the Congressional Research Service, the largest anti-poverty entitlement program of the Federal Government, from being claimed by Y temporary workers or illegal aliens given status by this Act until they adjust to legal permanent resident status.
00191 06-Jun S. 1348 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 1331 Agreed to Reid Amdt. No. 1331; To clarify the application of the earned income tax credit.
00190 06-Jun S. 1348 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 1250 Agreed to Cornyn Amdt. No. 1250; To address documentation of employment and to make an amendment with respect to mandatory disclosure of information.
00189 06-Jun S. 1348 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 1267 Rejected Bingaman Amdt. No. 1267 As Modified; To remove the requirement that Y-1 nonimmigrant visa holders leave the United States before they are able to renew their visa.
00188 06-Jun S. 1348 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 1197 Rejected DeMint Amdt. No. 1197; To require health care coverage for holders of Z nonimmigrant visas.
00187 06-Jun S. 1348 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 1184 Rejected Cornyn Amdt. No. 1184, As Modified; To establish a permanent bar for gang members, terrorists, and other criminals.
00186 06-Jun S. 1348 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 1333 Agreed to Kennedy Amdt. No. 1333, as Modified; To increase the immigration-related penalties associated with various criminal activities.
00185 05-Jun S. 1348 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 1176 Agreed to Feingold Amdt. No. 1176; To establish commissions to review the facts and circumstances surrounding injustices suffered by European Americans, European Latin Americans, and Jewish refugees during World War II.
00184 05-Jun S. 1348 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 1170 Rejected McConnell Amdt. No. 1170; To amend the Help America Vote Act of 2002 to require individuals voting in person to present photo identification.
00183 05-Jun S. 1348 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 1231 Agreed to Durbin Amdt. No. 1231; To ensure that employers make efforts to recruit American workers.
00182 05-Jun S. 1348 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 1189 Rejected Allard Amdt. No. 1189; To eliminate the preference given to people who entered the United States illegally over people seeking to enter the country legally in the merit-based evaluation system for visas.

Click on the link to see how your Senator Voted.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll..._menu_110_1.htm

 

[wnbubbleboy]

Looks like the House is getting ready for when the bill passes the senate:

1. H.J.RES.46 : Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to deny United States citizenship to individuals born in the United States to parents who are neither United States citizens nor persons who owe permanent allegiance to the United States.
Sponsor: Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] (introduced 6/13/2007) Cosponsors (3)
Committees: House Judiciary
Latest Major Action: 6/13/2007 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.



IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

June 13, 2007
Mr. PAUL (for himself, Mr. GOODE, Mr. DEAL of Georgia, and Mr. AKIN) introduced the following joint resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


JOINT RESOLUTION
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to deny United States citizenship to individuals born in the United States to parents who are neither United States citizens nor persons who owe permanent allegiance to the United States.


Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of its submission for ratification:

`Article --

`Section 1. Any person born after the date of the ratification of this article to a mother and father, neither of whom is a citizen of the United States nor a person who owes permanent allegiance to the United States, shall not be a citizen of the United States or of any State solely by reason of birth in the United States.

`Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.'.





http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/R?d1...0:+@eq+20070613

 

[Gilding the Lily]

Here is the sponsor's speech on the matter:

Mr. PAUL . Madam Speaker, I rise to once again introduce the American Citizenship Amendment. Currently, any person born on American soil can claim American citizenship, regardless of the citizenship of that child's parents. This means that any non-citizen who happens to give birth in the United States has just given birth to an American citizen, eligible for all the benefits and privileges afforded to citizens.

Madam Speaker, this is unacceptable and is far from what our Founders intended when they drafted our Constitution. It undermines the very concept of citizenship as enshrined in the United States Constitution: to be constitutionally entitled to U.S. citizenship one must be "born . . . in the United States" and "subject to the jurisdiction thereof." This second, and most important, part means that in order to gain U.S. citizenship one must owe and actively express allegiance to the United States in addition to the act of being born on United States soil.

Practically, what the current state of affairs does is cheapen citizenship. Rather than impart all the obligations and responsibilities of being an American, it becomes merely a ticket to welfare and other Federal benefits. The history of the United States is that of immigrants, but previously individuals from diverse backgrounds accepted the obligations of citizenship in exchange for the great benefits of living in the United States as Americans.

This proposed constitutional amendment restores the concept of American citizenship to that of our Founders. This legislation simply states that no child born in the United States whose mother and father do not possess citizenship or owe permanent allegiance to the United States shall be a citizen of the United States. It is essential to the future of our constitutional republic that citizenship be something of value, something to be cherished. It cannot be viewed as merely an express train into the welfare state. I hope my colleagues will join me as cosponsors of this legislation.