What Age To Retire With Lifetime Travel?

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  1. Salty Dog

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    I've heard a few different scenarios
     
  2. amt66

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    I believe it's 10 years if service and 50 years old but not 100% positive
     
  3. JAFI

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    You must be a retiree, and not just drawing a pension. So, you can retire at 55, or under the 50/55 rule you can leave at 50 and retire anytime after 55 (if you have enough years in service). But, you will not have travel benefits until you draw your pension.

    Of coarse, this is for TWU. Not sure if the F/A or pilots have different deals.
     
  4. IORFA

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    Sounds the same for F/A's as well.
     
  5. jimntx

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    There are some "early out" scenarios where you get travel for a certain number of years after your departure, but as stated above for just a regular retirement, as long as you have 10 years on the payroll, you get lifetime travel benefits. I was furloughed for 17 months; so, I have an "adjusted" company seniority date. I started in 2000, but my company seniority date (used to determine retiree benefits other than pension) is January, 2002.
     
  6. eolesen

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    Travel, aside from the Article 30 program Jim mentioned for FA's, is not contractual, so eligibility is the same across the company: no travel until you retire.

    For the most part, that's been the date at which you inform HR you want to draw your pension, but agents and management had the option to convert to the 401K in 2001, and that's something that the company doesn't control, so it's really clear to me how that will work going forward.

    As an aside, the calculation for determining 10 years of service is cumulative.

    If I want retiree travel, all I have to do is interview to be a CSM, get back on payroll for 15 days, and then "retire" anytime after my 50th birthday.

    Not sure how US/HP/AL/PI/PS/ managed that in the past, but I know that TW/EA/OC/QQ seniority was credited for those employees who started elsewhere.
     
  7. Bob Owens

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    I think you have to have 10 years AND be over 50 when you leave to get flight benefits when you start collecting your pension, earliest age 55 (unless awarded a Disability pension which really exists only on paper-they really dont give it out, if you qualify for it most likely you are in no condition to travel).
     
  8. bob@las-AA

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    10 years of service, and 55 years of age for free flight. Now if you took the 50 and 55 he had to wait until 55 to gain the flight.
     
  9. jimntx

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    Well, the age goes without saying because you can't draw your pension earlier than age 50 regardless of number of years of service. (Well, I imagine there would be an exception if you had an IOD that resulted in permanent disability.)
     
  10. UPNAWAY

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    At US it is not tied to collecting a pension at all. Just age + years of service must equal 65 or more i.e. 10 years and be 55.
     
  11. Bob Owens

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    So you could be 42 years old with 23 years and keep Flight Benefits if you leave the company?
     
  12. dash8roa

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    At US if hired before jan-1-2003, 55 years of are and 5 years of service.
     
  13. Barfbag

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    What about US retirees do they go DOH in standby listing ??
     
  14. dash8roa

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    Yes. They travel at SA4 while active employees are at SA3.
     
  15. Barfbag

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    With FCFS there is no down-grading for retirees.

    What you have in life you keep for life.

    You are no lesser a person when you retire so why should you be downgraded?
     
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  16. dash8roa

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    Retirees get 4 SA1 passes per year which allows a traveler to fly at the top of the list for 4 one way flights. I use the SA1 on return flights from Europe and it has always worked for me apart from getting stuck in Athens due to weight restrictions that also affected paying passengers.
    Either plan would be fine for me as long as there are no fees apart from taxes on international flights. What does AA charge for non rev travel to Europe and how much is it for first class?. US is free for coach and $100.00 for first class plus the taxes.
     
  17. Barfbag

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    Here it's free domestically in coach with 25 years and more and about the same internationally as US. The exception here is that the surcharges are figured in point to point and by either less than or more than 25 years. Everyone in your family group gets 4 D-1s a year thats equivalent to your SA-1, I guess. Buddy passes here are called D-3 and they are listed in the point to point ( station to station ) surcharge schedule found in Jetnet.

    Having come originally from TWA, which mirrors your Senority based system at US, I can say that AA system is much better for retirees because they don't lose anything in listing that they did have already.
     
  18. IORFA

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    Free domestic in coach after 5 years. After 25 years, they subtract the coach fee from first to make it cheaper. After 25, international coach is free, except taxes and fees. They also subtract the original coach fee from first to make it a little cheaper as well.
     
  19. dash8roa

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    I am a little confused. One post says domestic free after 25 years and another says 5 years. I am retired US but with less than 25 years but more than 5 years. Would domestic be free for me and what fees would there be on a flight to Europe? At US, both domestic and international is free in coach apart from the taxes. Also, what would the fees for first class be for Europe?

    Thanks.
     
  20. john john

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    what is a coach fee
     

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