10% Int'l Reduction

[LukeAisleWalker]

Has anyone heard when they are to announce what they are cutting Internationally?
Any thoughts on what they might cut?

Since LAX-SYD has sparked a fare war (Quantas, United, V-Australia), do you think this frequency could be cut to 3 or 4 days per week rather than daily?

 

[BABABOOY]

They mentioned Pacific/Atlantic cuts. Possible growth in Latin/South America.
The reduction will come from possible exiting from some markets, down gauging a/c
and finally reduce frequency in others.
I can't speak for the Pacific but it looks like that will be hit a bit harder than
the Atlantic.
PIT-CDG will not be touched. (subsidies)
CVG-EUROPE?
I may be mistaken, but isn't the fall/winter schedule worked around
June?

 

[Dignity]

Since LAX-SYD has sparked a fare war (Quantas, United, V-Australia), do you think this frequency could be cut to 3 or 4 days per week rather than daily?

my first thought would be no.. it would not be cut.. it would still go daily.

why? because that is a route in the 'alliance' of flights.. that is not operated by another airline in the partnership..it will not be cut.. its is too important...but who knows what will happen?

they should absolutely connect LAX with other cities such as JFK, SLC, MSP, DTW and time those arrivals for passengers to connect and feed that flight..

 

[Dignity]

They mentioned Pacific/Atlantic cuts. Possible growth in Latin/South America.
The reduction will come from possible exiting from some markets, down gauging a/c
and finally reduce frequency in others.
I can't speak for the Pacific but it looks like that will be hit a bit harder than
the Atlantic.

from our perspective (NW side) any reduction in Pacific routes or frequencies will absolutely be noticed
more so than the DAL side.. since that is such a significant part of our pre-merger operation..(it is a reason why it is imperative having our groups combine timely after an SOC)

some will understand a little more clearly.. when the actual capacity cuts go into effect, being separate..(why we should be resolving issues now..) 10 percent International reduction is not insignificant ..

these cuts are going to be felt by one group more than another(and these reductions will be on both sides)..and it will more than likely be us on the NW side that feels it a little more.. especially if they are talking...'Pacific'..

live and learn..

CVG-EUROPE?

to me, it seems as long as a flight is performing well.. it should stay in place regardless if another hub is relatively nearby...but that depends on the numbers of those who are actually boarding locally..as opposed to a flight that is primarily fed by connections (that could be moved around)

if an International flight is being filled up, by those who live there locally at CVG..(it needs to say put)

 

[Kev3188]

My guesses (and they're just that):

PDX-AMS
DTW-AMS (removal of 1 flight daily)
MEM-AMS
BDL-AMS
RDU-CDG (yes, I know it's already on hiatus, and shouldn't count, but I'm putting on here anyway)
HNL-KIX
ATL-ARN
Malaga
Pisa

On top of that, I would guess that if a city is flown to by more than one hub, one segment goes (for example if a city is served by both JFK & ATL, then one gets cut).

 

[Dignity]

recent aggressive capacity additions can be scaled back..Europe seems to be over-focused and there is a lot that can be combined with the alliance flights to and from the largest domestic hubs to international hubs...it seems they could focus on AMS and CDG reducing some other direct flights while enabling international connections at those hubs..

Adjusting US-Asia frequencies and scale back some of the nonstops..(retaining Asia nonstops at key US domestic hubs)

a focus.. JFK-NRT, the Southwest Pacific-Australia, Latin America and Asia Interport..

 

[BABABOOY]

Malaga
Pisa

I would be very surprised with these two.
1) no competition.
2) From What I understand the yields are quite good.

 

[Kev3188]

I would be very surprised with these two.
1) no competition.
2) From What I understand the yields are quite good.

Fair enough... That's why I indemnified myself by saying they were just guesses. 🙂

What about some of the following:

*GUM & SPN to NGO & KIX- Maybe just route SPN & GUM through NRT?
*SLC-NRT
*ATL-ICN
*ATL-PVG- just route it over DTW? I've heard the freight is good... How are the loads/yield?
*JFK-OTP/KBP-are these daily? If so, maybe just frequency cuts?

*I would also imagine most of NW's small network to Latin America will get funneled through ATL

A couple of other questions:

Does DL still have the Proctor & Gamble contract(s) out of CVG, or did they go away in BK?

I know they mentioned cutting frequencies on some routes. I wonder how much of the total percentage that will account for?

 

[BABABOOY]

Fair enough... That's why I indemnified myself by saying they were just guesses. 🙂

What about some of the following:

*ATL-PVG- just route it over DTW? I've heard the freight is good... How are the loads/yield
*JFK-OTP/KBP-are these daily? If so, maybe just frequency cuts?

*

Since ATL-PVG is a Route award, I would imagine this would be the last to cut ?
If we don't fly it, we loose it. Delta already reduced the frequency.

JFK-OTP is seasonal
JFK-KBP gets reduced in the winter

I would question the SNN / DUB routes. The loads are good and Delta went
year 'round with each city instead of a tag on.. SNN-DUB. However I question
the yields on these two.

 

[Dignity]

Since ATL-PVG is a Route award, I would imagine this would be the last to cut ?
If we don't fly it, we loose it. Delta already reduced the frequency.

ATL-PVG or ATL-NRT will not be cut (it would be a mistake long term)..reducing capacity does not necessarily mean eliminating service all together..

 

[john john]

I’m sure the companies are skittish on reductions due to upcoming vote’s hence lets hurry up and vote stance of the companies

 

[Kev3188]

BDL-AMS is toast (again)...

 

[formeraa]

I would question the SNN / DUB routes. The loads are good and Delta went
year 'round with each city instead of a tag on.. SNN-DUB. However I question
the yields on these two.

The tag was forced by a strange Ireland-USA bilateral agreement. Believe it or not, every flight to DUB had to land in SNN and vice versa. Now, under open skies, they no longer have to operate the tag. So, it makes sense to separate the flights. Unfortunately, tags rarely make sense at today's fare levels.

 

[Kev3188]

According to this, Abuja is off the table for now as well...

 

[YVINTERN]

According to this, Abuja is off the table for now as well...

The minister had at a press conference in February accused Delta and British Airways of using old and “scrappy aircraftâ€￾ on the Nigerian routes compared to the ones being used on other routes.


What a load of baloney...rubbish...AeroFlot doesn't fly there yet =)