20 More 757's...

[onetimezone]

Thats exactly right. There are still transactions (EMB-190 purchase for example) that the BK court has to still approve/monitor after BK procedings are terminated. Until then some transactions of US Airways is still under the jurisdiction of the BK court. This is normal after a corporation leaves chpt 11.

 

[crj58]

I have heard Doug Parker make the same comments as indicated above regarding additional B767/B757 aircraft coming into the fleet, but there are continuing reports that US Airways will obtain up to 10 B767-300 and 15 additional B757 aircraft for more Hawaiian/South American service and Star Alliance expansion with aircraft deliveries starting in 2007.

This report is interesting considering Reuters recently reported "US Airways asked a US Bankruptcy Court in Virginia to give it an additional 60 days to decide whether to assume or reject the (United Airlines) code-share contract. In a March 3 filing with the court, US Airways listed the contract as one it intends to 'assume.' But that doesn’t mean the matter’s closed. The two sides still haven’t agreed to final terms. If they fail to do so, US Airway’s 'codeshare relationship with United and membership in Star Alliance could be terminated,'" US Airways said in a SEC filing.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

Just out of curiosity what is the the reported source of these aircraft? Delta? United? or some leasing company with the available a/c?

 

[airportman]

I have heard Doug Parker make the same comments as indicated above regarding additional B767/B757 aircraft coming into the fleet, but there are continuing reports that US Airways will obtain up to 10 B767-300 and 15 additional B757 aircraft for more Hawaiian/South American service and Star Alliance expansion with aircraft deliveries starting in 2007.

This report is interesting considering Reuters recently reported "US Airways asked a US Bankruptcy Court in Virginia to give it an additional 60 days to decide whether to assume or reject the (United Airlines) code-share contract. In a March 3 filing with the court, US Airways listed the contract as one it intends to 'assume.' But that doesn’t mean the matter’s closed. The two sides still haven’t agreed to final terms. If they fail to do so, US Airway’s 'codeshare relationship with United and membership in Star Alliance could be terminated,'" US Airways said in a SEC filing.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

ITS NOW BEEN EXTENDED TO OCTOBER 30TH

 

[USA320Pilot]

It is now my understanding US Airways may add 10 more B767/B757 aircraft to the fleet, but the new additions would be to replace aging B767/B757 aircraft in the current inventory.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[airportman]

It is now my understanding US Airways may add 10 more B767/B757 aircraft to the fleet, but the new additions would be to replace aging B767/B757 aircraft in the current inventory.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

They wont replace 767's they did a sale leaseback on the 767 for 5 yrs so they are all here to stay until then

 

[USA320Pilot]

At a recent pilot meeting in PHX, US Airways vice president of flight operations Captain Ed Bular confirmed the company is evaluating adding approximately 10 B757/B767 aircraft to the fleet, but he indicated these aircraft would be a one-for-one replacement for aircraft coming off of lease.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[BoeingBoy]

Well, they'll have to find some more airplanes somewhere to lessen the shrinkage. According to the annual report, the plan is to be down to 354 mainline aircraft by this year. That's with the anticipation of losing 22 planes and acquiring 5 - some of the 22 are already gone and the 5 (counting the 3 "new" 757's) are already here.

In 2007, there are 39 leases scheduled to expire (17 HP, 22 US) and an additional 24 (6 HP, 18 US) that have leasor call options - the leasor can demand their return.

In 2008, there are 61 more leases scheduled to expire (19 HP, 42 US), and 18 (all US) leasor call options.

As everyone knows, the next scheduled Airbus deliveries are in 2009. That year there are 34 leases expiring (9 HP, 25 US) and 9 (all US) leasor call options.

Finally, as far ahead as the annual report goes - 2010. There are 24 lease expirations that year, 8 HP and 16 US.

Obviously, a lease set to expire or a leasor having a call option doesn't mean that an airplane will leave. Leases can be extended, lease rates can be negotiated to prevent the leasor from calling in airplanes early. New (at least to us) planes can be leased. But the next couple of years could get interesting unless they find some more planes somewhere.

Jim

 

[JFK777]

Where does Us want to use all those 757 or 763 other then Hawaii? The route I think needs to be a priority is Phoenix to London. South America from Charlotte will work with a 757 as far south as Lima, for Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires an A330 or 767 will be needed.

 

[FlyOnWall]

A 320 couldn't make it to LIM?

 

[zethya]

Where does Us want to use all those 757 or 763 other then Hawaii? The route I think needs to be a priority is Phoenix to London. South America from Charlotte will work with a 757 as far south as Lima, for Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires an A330 or 767 will be needed.

If they fly to deep South America (incl. Lima), they'll do it from PHL, not CLT and it would need at least a 767(x)ER.

 

[kid5mule]

Well, they'll have to find some more airplanes somewhere to lessen the shrinkage. According to the annual report, the plan is to be down to 354 mainline aircraft by this year. That's with the anticipation of losing 22 planes and acquiring 5 - some of the 22 are already gone and the 5 (counting the 3 "new" 757's) are already here.

In 2007, there are 39 leases scheduled to expire (17 HP, 22 US) and an additional 24 (6 HP, 18 US) that have leasor call options - the leasor can demand their return.

In 2008, there are 61 more leases scheduled to expire (19 HP, 42 US), and 18 (all US) leasor call options.

As everyone knows, the next scheduled Airbus deliveries are in 2009. That year there are 34 leases expiring (9 HP, 25 US) and 9 (all US) leasor call options.

Finally, as far ahead as the annual report goes - 2010. There are 24 lease expirations that year, 8 HP and 16 US.

Obviously, a lease set to expire or a leasor having a call option doesn't mean that an airplane will leave. Leases can be extended, lease rates can be negotiated to prevent the leasor from calling in airplanes early. New (at least to us) planes can be leased. But the next couple of years could get interesting unless they find some more planes somewhere.

Jim

 

[FWAAA]

A 320 couldn't make it to LIM?

Not from CLT. 2831 nm is a little too far for the short-legged 320.

 

[JFK777]

FLYONWall,

I said a 757 not an A320. 757's fly from Newark all over Europe, CLT to Lima, no problem. 757 are good to Latin America, A320 aren't. Look at AA operation from Miami, full of 757's for those high altitude airports like Bogota.

 

[FlyOnWall]

FLYONWall,

I said a 757 not an A320. 757's fly from Newark all over Europe, CLT to Lima, no problem. 757 are good to Latin America, A320 aren't. Look at AA operation from Miami, full of 757's for those high altitude airports like Bogota.

Oh I know, I was just curious as to whether it could be accomplished with one of the A320 family. It's a pity the A321 is so weak, that airframe with better range would be great for US Airways for international.

So it seems like th new mgmt likes the 757 alot, whereas the old US had turned into a cattle car for Florida. I wonfer what the long term fleet plan is. Is the 757 subbing for A330-200s for now?

 

[PHL]

Is the 757 subbing for A330-200s for now?

I can't see a 757 being a substitute for ANY route suited for an A330-200. Totally different beasts. The range of the 332 is a good 50% more than the '57, for starts. Why would we underutilize a 332 on '57 routes?