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4 Recuiter Suicides

Bet more don't than do.


Where do you get your data from?




Cannot handle demand

Maybe this is why some do not seek help?


A report by advocacy group Veterans for America said the mental healthcare system at Fort Drum was not meeting the demands placed on it and had prepared inadequately for the return of more than 3,500 soldiers from Iraq late last year.

"Even though we knew this group were coming back from their 4th deployment and there would be these problems, we still had massive waits of two months (for appointments)," Veterans for America spokeswoman Adrienne Willis said.

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Why should treatment even be an option? Every single soldier coming off the boat or plane should be required to be checked out by a shrink with in one week of arrival. No one, not a single soldier should have to wait 2 months for an appointment for anything. If we have to pay a war tax to fund it, so be it. Bush and Cheney started this mess. Lets use some of those oil revenues to pay the cost of treating our vets who saved that oil. OH wait, there are not oil revenues are there. My bad.
 
So in your infinite wisdom....tell the wife of a soldier this war is phoney.



So you come out of the closet now as a Rush/Hannity listener?




Don't think you will get an argument here NHBB. 😱



dell,

To your "grandstanding" of me saying to an Iraq widow, that...... that War was a "cooked up Phoney", my reply to them, and you would be,................Sometimes the TRUTH Hurts real Bad !


As to me listening to "Bimbo + Hannity", I'll tell you up front, that I do, almost on a daily basis,......................BUT....don't start "jumping for joy" jusy yet.

Listening to them, for only 10 min. each, each day,......Is akin to getting ahold to the opposing teams "play book", so as to be able to "debunk" those two MORONS, to people who really don't know about their..."M O's" !!!!



OH,

And dell,................one other thing.

You know about all this talk about the "Fairness Doctrine"(Silencing Conservative Talk Radio), well, .... FYI, I'd FIGHT against that EVERY step of the way,.............And do you know why ?????

Those 2 IDIOTS are tremendous help to the Dems.

SURE, they energize the Base..aka..Palin, but therein lies "the Rub".

The "reformers" in the GOP(guys like Pawlenty/Jidal) know full well, that the "base" is KILLING them(meaning the future of the GOP).

Though they won't come out and say it,......They PRAY like HEL* that those christian Extreme right wing NUT evangelical LUNATICS, would somehow, ...just disappear, because the American people(meaning potential GOP voters), have FAR to many things to Worry about, than..."PRO CHOICE" !!
(Care to debate my last paragraph............dell) ???
 
Though they won't come out and say it,......They PRAY like HEL* that those christian Extreme right wing NUT evangelical LUNATICS, would somehow, ...just disappear, because the American people(meaning potential GOP voters), have FAR to many things to Worry about, than..."PRO CHOICE" !!
(Care to debate my last paragraph............dell) ???

Like it or not...they always have been one issue voters and they won't change.

GOP core has lost their way just like the Dem's.Neither party stands for much of anything anymore.
GOP has no spine while the Dem's campaigned on false promises and now have accomplished nothing much since taking control.

Those 2 IDIOTS are tremendous help to the Dems.

Why then do Nancy and Harry and a few other of your brethren want to muzzle talk radio? :lol:

Your problem is you should listen to them longer......... 😱
 
Many don't go for help Cos.....very many.
They find solace in addictive/destructive past times.....until they come to grips with their selves they won't get help.So how is it they are left on the side of the road?

Very true Dude, but not for the same reasons. After the elation of survival comes the guilt of survival. A soldier carries a lot of guilt and our society does not understand it. They speak in platitudes and theorize what a human being does in the face of a combatant.

Been there, got the T-Shirt…

B) xUT
 
Which goes back to the point that we will spend billions to give them weapons of war (very glamorous don't you know) but we hardly spend a diam (in comparison) to help bring them back into society and help them adjust or help them deal with what they have seen and done in combat. Gives me a warm fuzzy feeling that makes me want to join up ... or not.
 
Very true Dude, but not for the same reasons. After the elation of survival comes the guilt of survival. A soldier carries a lot of guilt and our society does not understand it. They speak in platitudes and theorize what a human being does in the face of a combatant.

Been there, got the T-Shirt…

B) xUT

I've seen your website....it speaks volumes,at least I see it that way.

I'm somewhat aware of the guilt you refer to.....and I hold the utmost respect for you and those who committed. 😉

Somewhat akin to the tornado victim whose house is the only one on the block as all his neighbors lost theirs.

To me,I see the VA medical system somewhat as a harbinger to what may come our way for healthcare.....

But of course....Nancy,Harry and Barry won't let it go that way.... :mf_boff:
 
Now dell, you KNOW they will change it for the better.

As for the $$$, just take it out of the monthly "Iraq fund" !

VERY simple equation.
 
I've seen your website....it speaks volumes,at least I see it that way.

I'm somewhat aware of the guilt you refer to.....and I hold the utmost respect for you and those who committed. 😉

Somewhat akin to the tornado victim whose house is the only one on the block as all his neighbors lost theirs.

To me,I see the VA medical system somewhat as a harbinger to what may come our way for healthcare.....

But of course....Nancy,Harry and Barry won't let it go that way.... :mf_boff:


Perhaps if those who put yellow ribbons on their SUV's and have signs that say 'support our troops' were to actually do something thing may change. Perhaps if a POTUS actually had to pay for his war things might change. Perhaps if people actually had to make a sacrifice instead of being told to 'go shopping' things might change.

Politicians are not going to change anything. 8 yrs of W with 6 yrs of a republican Congress did not improve this nation. A few years of Dems in charge certainly will not be able to reverse what was done and will not make this nation any better either.

Not sure what you mean by harbinger. Have you been to a county hospital? Only the rich and those with good health insurance get adequate medical treatment. The poor and uninsured get what's left over. Capitalism at work or what is other wise known as 'Survival of the fittest'.
 
I've seen your website....it speaks volumes,at least I see it that way.

I'm somewhat aware of the guilt you refer to.....and I hold the utmost respect for you and those who committed. 😉

Somewhat akin to the tornado victim whose house is the only one on the block as all his neighbors lost theirs.

To me,I see the VA medical system somewhat as a harbinger to what may come our way for healthcare.....

But of course....Nancy,Harry and Barry won't let it go that way.... :mf_boff:

Thanks Dude,

Somehow ( 😛 ) I knew you would understand. JMHO & PO, vets would rather die than ask for a hand out. Hand Up, probably. They do not ‘####’ and ‘whine’ to what the world has given them.

Take Care,
B) xUT
 

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