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767 engine fire/damage at LAX

Is the aircraft still sitting outside or has it been moved to a hangar?


Are asking these questions so you can be more familiar on how REAL UNIONIZED AIRLINE MECHANICS do their jobs? You really need to get a life, get the heck outta hear and go back to SCAB Air!

Go home SCAB!
 
[quote name='Nor'Easta' post='387589' date='Jun 10 2006, 03:51 PM']Are asking these questions so you can be more familiar on how REAL UNIONIZED AIRLINE MECHANICS do their jobs? You really need to get a life, get the heck outta hear and go back to SCAB Air![/quote]
I just want to know if this multi-million dollar aircraft that was last placed in the hands of the " REAL UNIONIZED AIRLINE MECHANICS gets the guillotine or not.
 
I just want to know if this multi-million dollar aircraft that was last placed in the hands of the " REAL UNIONIZED AIRLINE MECHANICS gets the guillotine or not.


Why don't you worry about your own NWA scab maintained JUNK. You've already admitted that you can't non-rev anywhere on NWA because most of the time Northwest flights are delayed because your scabby maintained airplanes are broke or unserviceable.


I've been searching the internet on the history of the CF-6. There have been many other uncontained H.P. turbine explosions through out this engine's history. Looks like a complete redesign of the H.P. turbine disks may be in order.
 
Can we stick to the topic at hand and lay off the name calling. If you dont want to address a question, just skip it....
 
Can we stick to the topic at hand and lay off the name calling. If you dont want to address a question, just skip it....

Can we get this guy outta hear? He gets his jollies and thrills on BS!
 
The National Transportation Safety Board said Tuesday one of the two engines on the American Airlines plane blew apart during a test run, sending pieces into the fuselage and the other engine, punching holes into the wings and scattering pieces as far as 3,000 feet away. General Electric Co. makes the engine.

An analysis at the NTSB Materials Laboratory found indications of cracks resulting from metal fatigue.

This week, the NTSB is supervising a teardown of the engine at an American Airlines maintenance facility in Tulsa, Okla.

U.S.-made engines are regarded as extremely reliable, but there have been problems with fatigue cracking in certain engine parts.
 
The airline is "still in the process of refurbishing the aircraft."
Not sure if this quote is more stupid than the original - "change the engine" quote.

What's next, an NWA style quote: "it was just a normal engine explosion, and just a normal trail of parts, smoke and fire."
 
No one has mentioned United 232, a DC-10 that crashed in Souix City, Iowa in the late 80's after the forward fan section of the number two (center) engine disintergrated inflight and severed all three of the DC-10's hydraulic systems and rendered the aircraft uncontrollable.

That sounds like the same forward fan we're talking about here, and they are both GE CF-6 engines. The NTSB found metal fatigue and associated tiny cracks to be the cause in that incident and blamed United maintenance. The fan section was found sometime later in a corn field -- the plane was in flight at the time of the failure and so the engine pieces scattered to earth far and wide.

I'm amazed that the same type of failure is still happening, including the Air New Zealand plane mentioned in another post. Based on the preliminary word we're getting about this, it sounds kind of alarming.

You would think more diligence would be paid to those CF-6's since the United crash, but the same type of failure seems to be continuing. Since I'm flying on two AA 767-300's this month I would feel much better knowing the proper inspections have been performed -- obviously they were not on this aircraft or the tiny cracks would have been discovered. They don't just pop up overnight. It takes years of metal fatigue for them to develop to the point of danger.

I'd be interested in feedback from those who have some expertise in this stuff. Since they have recovered the failed parts it shouldn't take long to confirm the initial evaluation. Does the entire CF-6 powered fleet need x-ray or similar inspections -- at least for those engines that have over a certain number of hours of operation under their belt? I would think so. If so, how long would it take to perform these inspections? Are older models safe to fly in the meantime? I would think perhaps not -- this is NOT an isolated incident and the result in flight is more than a lost engine, which isn't that big of a deal. We're talking about fatal injuries to the hull, wings, fuel tank integrity, etc.

Nice to be cruising at 35,000 feet and in one fell swoop you've got an engine failure (at least one if the other isn't also hit by shrapnel), a sudden depressurization, loss of hydraulics and a fire. How many pilots can take that in a simulator and come out on top?
 
I believe this current failure is the Turbine Disk, not the Forward Fan Disk.

My understanding is that AA has 4 more Aircraft with these suspect disk that are currently under the mandated time limit, but this failure has caused many meetings and concern for the other four.

Stay tuned.
 

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