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Glenn Quagmire

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I think Sebelius will have to take the hit for the web site roll out. She needs to resign.

Seeing Tom Coburn on one of the talking head shows this morning, it looks like he and others are actually realizing that it is here to stay. He seemed to want to actually try and help in fixing known problems with the law.

It will be nice to see some bipartisan work on making the law more effective for all.

Massachusetts seems to be working well and it is liked. Maybe Obama should appoint Mitt Romney as the new HHS Secretary?
 
I think Sebelius will have to take the hit for the web site roll out. She needs to resign.

Seeing Tom Coburn on one of the talking head shows this morning, it looks like he and others are actually realizing that it is here to stay. He seemed to want to actually try and help in fixing known problems with the law.

It will be nice to see some bipartisan work on making the law more effective for all.

Massachusetts seems to be working well and it is liked. Maybe Obama should appoint Mitt Romney as the new HHS Secretary?

Nope, the tea party mandate, from the kock brothers financing says, repeal Obamacare.

Any Republican caught in anyway sympithizing with the plight of the American citizenry will have a tea party financed opponent in the next primary...

The Republican votes and policies are bought and paid for....

democracy has been repealed...

FASCISM:" When Fascism comes to America,it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."
-Sinclair Lewis 1835
 
Nope, the tea party mandate, from the kock brothers financing says, repeal Obamacare.

Any Republican caught in anyway sympithizing with the plight of the American citizenry will have a tea party financed opponent in the next primary...

The Republican votes and policies are bought and paid for....

democracy has been repealed...

FASCISM:" When Fascism comes to America,it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."
-Sinclair Lewis 1835
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Yawn.

DADT was the law once, too. And then it wasn't.

Someone said that HHS spent over $500M on the enrollment website, and then another $70M on the call centers?....

Seems that it would have been cheaper if HHS had just put $1M into a HSA for every American citizen. Then we'd have $~200M left over, and everyone could keep their doctor, their existing health plan.....
 
What tools are the Koch brothers using to keep young, healthy Americans from buying grossly over priced health insurance? Without the participation of these young, healthy Americans Obamacare will fail on its own. Judge Roberts tied the hands of any administration from raising the penalty tax for failure to participate. Should have read the bill before you passed it.
 
Someone said that HHS spent over $500M on the enrollment website, and then another $70M on the call centers?....

Seems that it would have been cheaper if HHS had just put $1M into a HSA for every American citizen. Then we'd have $~200M left over, and everyone could keep their doctor, their existing health plan.....

Your math would be right if "every American citizen" added up to 300. Go sit with Southwind.
 
FASCISM:" When Fascism comes to America,it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."
-Sinclair Lewis 1835

Brilliant op-ed on liberals.

“The line between fascism and Fabian socialism is very thin. Fabian socialism is the dream. Fascism is Fabian socialism plus the inevitable dictator.” John T. Flynn


In Argentina, everyone acknowledges that fascism, state capitalism, corporatism – whatever – reflects very leftwing ideology. Eva Peron remains a liberal icon. President Obama’s Fabian policies (Keynesian economics) promise similar ends. His proposed infrastructure bank is just the latest gyration of corporatism. Why then are fascists consistently portrayed as conservatives?
In the Thirties, intellectuals smitten by progressivism considered limited, constitutional governance anachronistic. The Great Depression had apparently proven capitalism defunct. The remaining choice had narrowed between communism and fascism. Hitler was about an inch to the right of Stalin. Western intellectuals infatuated with Marxism thus associated fascism with the Right.
Later, Marxists from the Frankfurt School popularized this prevailing sentiment. Theodor Adorno in The Authoritarian Personality devised the “F” scale to demean conservatives as latent fascists. The label “fascist” has subsequently meant anyone liberals seek to ostracize or discredit.

The multiculturalists substituted race where the Soviets and Maoists saw only class. America’s civic crusade has become political correctness, aka cultural Marxism, preoccupied with race. Socialism wheels around again.

America’s most fascistic elements are ultra leftwing organizations like La Raza or the Congressional Black Caucus. These racial nationalists seek gain not through merit, but through the attainment of government privileges. What’s the difference between segregation and affirmative action? They are identical phenomena harnessing state auspices to impose racialist dogma.

The Nation of Islam and other Afrocentric movements, like the Nazis, even celebrate their own perverse racist mythology. Are Louis Farrakhan and Jeremiah Wright conservatives? Is Obama?

Even issues revealing similarity to American conservatism could also describe Stalin, Mao and many communists. This is not to suggest liberals and fascists are indistinguishable, but a fair assessment clearly shows if any similarities appear with American politics they reside more on the Left than Right.

On many issues the Nazis align quite agreeably with liberals. The Nazis enforced strict gun control, which made their agenda possible and highlights the necessity of an armed populace.

Hitler extolled public education, even banning private schools and instituting “a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program” controlled by Berlin. Similar to liberals’ cradle to career ideal, the Nazis established state administered early childhood development programs; “The comprehension of the concept of the State must be striven for by the school as early as the beginning of understanding.”

Foreshadowing Michelle Obama, “The State is to care for elevating national health.” Nanny State intrusions reflect that persons are not sovereign, but belong to the state.

Hitler’s election platform included “an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.” Nazi propaganda proclaimed, “No one shall go hungry! No one shall be cold!” Germany had universal healthcare and demanded that “the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood.” Obama would relish such a “jobs” program.

Germany was first to enact environmentalist economic policies promoting sustainable development and regulating pollution. The Nazis bought into Rousseau’s romanticized primitive man fantasies. Living “authentically” in environs unspoiled by capitalist industry was almost as cherished as pure Aryan lineage.

Mussolini recognized, “Fascism entirely agrees with Mr. Maynard Keynes, despite the latter’s prominent position as a Liberal. In fact, Mr. Keynes’ excellent little book, The End of Laissez-Faire (l926) might, so far as it goes, serve as a useful introduction to fascist economics.” Keynes saw the similarities too, admitting his theories, “can be much easier adapted to the conditions of a totalitarian state than . . . a large degree of laissez-faire.” Hitler built the autobahn, FDR the TVA. Propaganda notwithstanding, neither rejuvenated their economies.

FDR admired Mussolini because “the trains ran on time” and Stalin’s five year plans, but was jealous of Hitler whose economic tinkering appeared more successful than the New Deal. America wasn’t ready for FDR’s blatantly fascist Blue Eagle business model and the Supreme Court overturned several other socialist designs. The greatest dissimilarity between FDR and fascists was he enjoyed less success transforming society because the Constitution obstructed him.
Even using Republicans as proxies, there was little remotely conservative about fascism. Hitler and Mussolini were probably to the right of our left-leaning media and education establishments, but labeling Tea Partiers as fascists doesn’t indict the Right. It indicts those declaring so as radically Left.
http://www.forbes.co...lie-in-history/
 
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